BBC Article - Change of wording

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Remember the cotton ceiling article from the BBC?

There was extensive discussion about it at the time. You can find it here:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4386058-BBC-cotton-ceiling-thread-number-2

Well, Glinner linked to the article in a recent release and I notice that the word 'some' has been dropped from the headline.

Here's the BBC article now:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385

And here's a Wikipedia page confirming that I did indeed remember the original title correctly. It stood out at the time as really clunky. Anyone else find this intriguing?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22We%27re_being_pressured_into_sex_by_some_trans_women%22

That is indeed interesting.

What’s also interesting is that the research from Get the L Out was discredited on the grounds of small sample size, while the research on trans people taking their own lives is at least as flawed statistically speaking, but is constantly relied on by TRAs.

How bizarre that a BBC article should have a Wikipedia page. Just shows that most Wiki editors are biased self-important men.

You can see the original wording in this archived link; archive.ph/xIRen

The updates are mentioned at the end of the article - I can't paste it with the links in.

Update 4 November 2021:
We have updated this article, published last week, to remove a contribution from one individual in light of comments she has published on blog posts in recent days, which we have been able to verify.
We acknowledge that an admission of inappropriate behaviour by the same contributor should have been included in the original article.
^^
Update 31 May 2022:
The article's headline has been changed from 'We're being pressured into sex by some trans women' in light of a ruling from the BBC's Executive Complaints unit. You can see the ruling here.
Since publication of this article the BBC's Executive Complaints Unit has also ruled that the original article did not go far enough to make clear to readers the survey's "lack of statistical validity." The article has been amended to reflect this finding.

to expand on @Thelnebriati’s comment above:

version one: archive.ph/xIRen (October 2021)

version two: archive.ph/THioB (November 2021)

version three: archive.ph/Nc78S (May 2022)

Changes can be seen on the overview page on the archive site (see screenshot with my scribble!)

It’s a better headline anyway! Glad the BBC stuck by the article, despite all the pressure.

The headline is better. It reads more like normal speech, less cowed. I wondered if it hinted at a loosening of constraints around discussing the topic at hand.

Off to look at that ruling now. Thanks Gastonia.

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/ecu/newsonlineoctober2021

BBC Complaints ruling

In the course of this finding the terms “lesbians” and “trans women” have been used to differentiate between the groups highlighted in the article complained of, not to imply that they are mutually exclusive categories

FFS once you start saying that males can be lesbians you’re literally in Roy Chubby Brown territory. It’s time that the BBC took ownership of the implications of weasel words such as the above.

”but in no instance did this amount to a denial that trans women were women in fact and in law.”

Bleugh! Another transactivist gem towards the end. The mind-binding does go deep, doesn’t it?

Apologies, I should probably have included a bit more of that quote from the ruling for context:

”Other examples included contributors referring to trans women as “biologically male” or having “male” characteristics, but in no instance did this amount to a denial that trans women were women in fact and in law.”

Men are not women “in fact”, even if the government were foolish enough to be persuaded into bringing in the legal fiction that they are.

That is a lot of ruling to read.

'Other examples included contributors referring to trans women as “biologically male” or having “male” characteristics, but in no instance did this amount to a denial that trans women were women in fact and in law.'

Chinny reckon.