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Woman’s Hour today - Trigger warning - terrible child abuse

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ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2022 11:32

I was not sure if there is another thread, but couldn’t find one.

We heard the testament of a now grown woman who was abducted off the street, raped, strangled and left for dead in roadside undergrowth age seven. She is speaking out now the man who did this has died, as now she feels free enough to do so as he can’t find her or have knowledge about her.

Although she has married and has a family she is now unable to go out.

This interview with Emma Barnett is really the most harrowing and upsetting thing I’ve ever heard.

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nauticant · 01/12/2022 11:55

She deserves applause for her courage and wanting people to hear her story. But what a desperately sad listen. Hearing about how after 30 years the trauma is now causing particular damage to her is just heart breaking.

I see that following the programme the fundraiser done on her behalf leapt up and met its target.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2022 12:19

Thus from the Go Fund Me page started on her behalf. It is good it has reached its target.

It seems very wrong that she has been refused disability benefits given her current physical and mental state.

^Rachael Watts’s enormous courage as a child helped imprison a paedophile
killer - but now she needs help with her recovery^.

Rachael has publicly revealed for the first time that she was the seven year old Brighton girl who miraculously survived being abducted, sexually assaulted and strangled by ‘Babes in the Woods’ killer Russell Bishop in 1990.

Rachael is a proud, stoical person and has found it hard to obtain the help she needs and deserves. Now 40, she has developed agoraphobia – a profound terror of the outdoors – and been diagnosed with Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, acute anxiety and agonising Fibromyalgia (sometimes linked to stress). But she has been turned down for disability benefits and received little therapeutic support.

Police dubbed Rachael ‘the bravest little girl in Britain’ after her clear, detailed evidence in court finally led to Bishop being imprisoned. He was acquitted in 1987, after a badly botched trial, of murdering two nine year old Brighton girls. This left him free to abduct Rachael while she was roller-skating near her home.

He left Rachael for dead in bramble bushes on the remote Sussex Downs on 4 February 1990 but she recovered consciousness and, although naked, freezing and bleeding, crawled out and found help.

For many years Rachael bravely held her life together. She worked, married, had children and told almost no one about her history. But in 2018 Russell Bishop was retried and convicted of the ‘Babes’ murders. His trial brought back the horror of what he did to her and provoked a complete breakdown.

She has been unable since to work. Now, she sees speaking out as part of her healing...and gardening. The therapeutic power of gardening is well known and, given she still cannot venture far from her home, she longs to build a summer house and make her outdoor space - currently just a concrete-paved yard - beautiful. She’d also love a mini outdoor gym, to help rebuild her shattered physical health, and provide fun for the children whom she cannot currently take to the park.

Her income is very small, so help for her healing garden dream would be hugely appreciated.

My daughter was at primary school with Rachael, and I have never forgotten her courage. To read Rachael's story in full, you can follow this link to my recent article in the Sun on Sunday.

My earlier interview with her parents in the Daily Mail in 2018, after her attacker was finally convicted of murdering the Brighton 'Babes', further explains why Rachael - then hiding under the alias 'Daisy' - so needs our help.

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AlwaysTawnyOwl · 01/12/2022 12:59

The cruelty of men to women and girls never ceases to shock me. Poor woman.

BoreOfWhabylon · 01/12/2022 13:23

@ScrollingLeaves
Thanks for posting this. I'm going to listen to the interview now.
Perhaps you could repost on the main boards (with trigger warning), her voice should be widely heard.

It occurs to me that, if she were in Scotland she might well be told she needs to "reframe her trauma"

BoreOfWhabylon · 01/12/2022 13:25

Link to programme
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001fmq8

LaughingPriest · 01/12/2022 13:28

Wow - the absolute devastation these men can wreak is unbelievable. Thanks for posting about this. The GoFundMe is quite easy to find if you google her name.

ArabellaScott · 01/12/2022 14:12

My god. Don't think I can listen right now, but sending good thoughts to this woman. May she have a long and good life.

happydappy2 · 01/12/2022 15:13

I heard it and was dumbfounded she was refused disability benefits-no wonder she has complex PTSD and agoraphobia after what happened to her-where is the safety net for people who suffer such trauma?

ICanHideButICantRun · 01/12/2022 15:15

I didn't hear that today, but did hear the one about the Navy a couple of weeks ago. I've never heard anything so shocking on the radio.

LizzieSiddal · 01/12/2022 16:58

What a brave woman to speak out, I hope it goes someway in helping her to heal. Thanks for the link.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2022 19:14

BoreOfWhabylon · Today 13:23
Thanks for posting this. I'm going to listen to the interview now.

Perhaps you could repost on the main boards (with trigger warning), her voice should be widely heard

That’s a good idea, Bore. Would that be ‘chat’ or AIBU (somehow).

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BoreOfWhabylon · 01/12/2022 19:32

Either, I think. Chat usually a little less combative than AIBU.

ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2022 19:41

I should have waited for your reply as I just tried AIBU and now it has been hidden until Mumsnet HQ can look at it. I had hardly pressed post. I wonder if there is an algorithm to remove and check anything saying ‘Trigger Warning’?

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BoreOfWhabylon · 01/12/2022 19:47

Oo-er! Did you include The crowdfund link?
Maybe have a word with MNHQ ?

BoreOfWhabylon · 01/12/2022 19:50

I know they've tightened up autohide for all sorts in the battle to keep trolls out. I've reported your post and asked MNHQ to see if they can sort things.

flowerycurtain · 01/12/2022 19:52

I heard this too and it is one of the most harrowing things I've heard. She is such a brave lady to tell her story. I'm very very glad to see her gofundme reach its target. I hope she finds some peace in a beautiful garden

PipMumsnet · 01/12/2022 19:55

Hello @ScrollingLeaves your post included a link to crowdfunding site which sadly we don't allow on Mumsnet - this is why your post was automatically hidden by our AI. Hope that clarifies everything for you now. Feel free to post again but without the link. We can send you a copy of the opening post if you need us to.
MNHQ

ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2022 20:21

Thank you @PipMumsnet , you did send a copy to me without the Go Fund Me link, so I have reposted it. Thanks for your help.

Thank you too @BoreOfWhabylon

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ScrollingLeaves · 01/12/2022 21:22

Oddly not many people seem to have listened to this on Woman’s Hour or looked up the case. There are not many responses on AIBU. Maybe it is too sad and difficult a subject, and what else can one say?

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 01/12/2022 21:27

I tend to catch up with Woman's Hour episodes on Fridays (my day off). Thank ypu for flagging this up OP, I'll listen tomorrow.

SapphosRock · 02/12/2022 11:46

Just caught up with this today. Rachael is an amazing, brave woman and I have so much admiration for her. I thought EB interviewed her sensitively and with compassion.

I hope Rachael finds peace, just off to plant some seeds for her garden Flowers

Ramblingnamechanger · 04/12/2022 10:26

Incredibly upsetting and sad interview. Thank you to this woman for showing the damage that these men do. And the effects it has on lives afterwards. No other words.

Jingerlo · 10/12/2022 09:09

I've just read the interview in the Daily Mail. What an incredibly brave, amazing woman. I don't think I can bring myself to listen to the Woman's Hour interview. To have kept that from her children all this time - incredible. I hope she gets all the help she needs and the healing from her garden. I hope a new life blossoms with the help of these funds but mainly from the gratitude and love she is shown by people who are amazed at her courage. No one should have gone through what she went through.

The most heartbreaking element is the myth she kept alive that she had blacked out and didn't remember the details of the assault - when in fact she had remembered all the details but wanted to spare her parents the hurt of knowing that. Her bravery that resulted in that bastard being jailed is enormous. She genuinely probably saved other young girls from the same fate.

She's 40 now and deserves the best life that anyone can have. The best care and all the love.

I will certainly be 'gardening' (in the MN sense of the word) for her.

ScrollingLeaves · 10/12/2022 16:16

The WH interview was the most horrifying account of a childhood experience reported first hand I have ever heard.

It made me realise how voiceless children are.

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EpicChaos · 10/12/2022 16:48

What a very sad story.
I hope that she somehow manages to find peace in her life and that she finds someone that knows how the PIP system works, that can go through her claim with her and help her appeal the decision, or make a fresh claim.

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