Good Law Project & Gendered Intelligence - JR against the NHS

[ArabellaScott]

Started today, tribunal tweets are reporting:

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

More info:

tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/good-law-project-and-various-v-nhs

'In December 2021, The Good Law Project (GLP) alongside 2 adults, 2 children and 'trans led charity' Gendered Intelligence, applied for a judicial review on six Grounds, against NHS England, and several of its Trusts.

Within these Grounds, the claimants argue that the NHS and the Trusts discriminate against children and adults who access gender identity/dysphoria clinics with long waiting times to begin medicalisation, and don’t provide access to puberty blockers for children before they begin puberty.

In Ground 5, they also argue it's unlawful that NHS requires both the child and their parents to consent to 'puberty-delaying treatment'.'

Thank you for the heads up Arabella. I am out and about with the Olds today (Yes caring for family elders doesn't stop when your own parents are dead, huh. Bless them, good job I do love them!) Will catch up later.

I may be missing something, but this just looks like Foxy and his acolytes think that Trans is more urgent than every other thingbthe NHS does and MUST take precedence over all you cancer patients, accident victims, heart operations etc etc

In Ground 5, they also argue it's unlawful that NHS requires both the child and their parents to consent to 'puberty-delaying treatment'.'

Delayed puberty, when it occurs naturally, is a cause for concern because it may have detrimental effects later in life.

delayed puberty may not be an entirely benign entity and may be associated with shorter stature, lower bone mineral density, negative psychological outcomes, and increased risk for cardiovascular disease.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8579478/

So the GLP and GI are complaining because the NHS is cautious about inflicting harm on children.

I wonder if the objection is to "their parents" meaning both parents and GLP and GI are seeking to get an override for the parent in favour of medicalising the child.

Why is the Fox Basher constantly allowed to waste public funds like this. The NHS has more important things to spend OUR cash on.

I hope he loses again, and has to pay all costs.... again......

What is all this talk of “150 rare conditions”? Are the GLP trying to co-opt DSDs again?

Reading the tribunal tweets the Judge does not seem convinced or accepting of GLP's argument for Ground 1.

I just have a basic question:

If gender dysphoria is not a mental health condition as trans rights campaigners claim, and given that there is no relevant physiological health condition in those wishing to cosmetically alter their bodies to resemble the opposite sex, then

a) what exactly is it and
b) why must the NHS spend any money fixing it?

Well, and as we hear many trans people don't even have gender dysphoria, so it's not presumably a condition of being 'trans' to have GD. In which case, all these people looking for NHS treatments to alter their appearance are in the same category as people looking for any other aesthetic surgery or alterations.

I find this very disturbing.

I wonder what the NHS team comes back with. I look forward to this, but I expect to be disappointed.

a) what exactly is it and
b) why must the NHS spend any money fixing it?

There was a great little "scene in a doctor's office" skit script posted a few years ago where the doctor went through the logic with the hapless "patient", pointing out that every demand was counter to genderology, and ending up with them being told to go away and stop wasting their time, and to stop being so transphobic.

If anyone can find a copy, please post.

I guess all that's left is to say "well, it's counter to the logic, so it is kind of transphobic that I want to modify my body based on outdated ideas about what a woman is that I shouldn't hold, but the Science says it'll stop me feeling suicidal".

I agree

I really believe that this group cannot have it both ways.

If they are not doing this because of GD, then they should receive no treatment subsidised by the NHS.

It is extreme cosmetic surgery.

www.thelondontransgenderclinic.uk/price-list/

Here is the price list.

This people, like J Yaniv, act in such a bizarrely unreasonable way that I often wonder whether they are in fact GC fifth columnists.