School guidance on gender by the end of the year

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11457489/It-safeguarding-risk-schools-not-tell-parents-child-questioning-gender.html

Head of Ofsted says social transitioning in school withoit parental consent creates safeguarding risk.

All v sensible.

Don't hold your breath OP. They've been promising this guidance for nearly 5 years (I think). Presumable there's a mighty battle going on prising the sticky hands of the adults determined to transition children off the document & replacing them with child centred, safeguarding aware, responsible people who refuse to sacrifice children's safety and wellbeing.

Let's hope that the adults come back into the room, and that all childhood social transitioning is outlawed. The 'consent of the parents' exception opens the door to the trans-munchausen parents.

From long experience, DfE guidance is badly written, unclear and open to interpretation.

Don’t expect prohibitions or ‘must’. More likely ‘should’ or ‘may’.

Agreed Noble. I'm optimistic that Cass will have a positive impact but the trans tentacles run deep in the DfE / civil service so there'll be lots of fake Stonewall law and claims that they'll be committing literal violence if girls safety and privacy is prioritised over their roles as support humans etc.

Yes, very young children don't come up with the idea of being trans by themselves. That idea is put there by adults.

I'd like to see people who talk about 'trans' children use language which reflects what they are suggesting about these children. They are saying that these children are transsexual. 'Trans' is a sanitised term which hides what this is really about.

The word 'transsexual' is a better descriptor than 'trans' because we are talking about children being put on a path to having puberty blockers to arrest their sexual development, followed by opposite sex hormones and surgery to alter their sex organs and secondary sexual characteristics.

Why don't parents who put their children on this path and schools which are socially transitioning pupils talk about 'transsexual' children rather than 'trans' children? Do they think there's a difference between 'trans', 'transgender' and 'transsexual'? What is the difference?

Yes, @OldCrone . And my council is showing a video to kids which tells them that 'transgender' is a diagnosable, medical, condition. (It implies this clearly).

We have complained. They ignore our complaints.

We need central gvmt to act to ensure that this rubbish information is not taught.

I was coming here to say this but as usual noblegiraffe has put what I was thinking into much better and more succinct words

Why is it taking so long? DfE are accountable for the harms that will result from the lack of clear guidance.

The women on here could put this guidance together in about 2 weeks. It's ridiculous.

Do they think there's a difference between 'trans', 'transgender' and 'transsexual'? What is the difference?

The difference is that transsexual is the word that is used in the relevant legislation, of course.

So why doesn't everyone use the word 'transsexual'? Then they could show that they're using a legally defined term to describe a legally defined group of people.

And it would make it much clearer what is going on if people started talking about 'transsexual children'.

What @OldCrone said.

The reason that certain activists say “trans” and “transgender” when what they mean is “transsexual” is so they can talk about and to children. Activists know that going to a playgroup to talk to toddlers about sex will draw attention so they talk about “trans issues” instead.

But really this all comes down to men who want to talk to children about sex. My generation had a name for that. 😐

I think there are two strands to this. The other reason for the invention of the idea of the 'trans child' is for children to act as 'cover' for middle-aged men who decide to transition.

If there are also 'trans children', then 'being trans' can't possibly be a fetish. The aim is for middle-aged men to be seen to be experiencing exactly the same 'gender issues' as children in primary school and teenage girls.

The use of the word 'trans' rather than transsexual is important because, as you say, people would quickly see through this if anyone started talking about transsexual children. I think we should do just that, and if anyone questions this, ask what they think the difference is between 'trans' and 'transsexual'.

That's such a good point OldCrone. At every stage of this the mangling of language has been essential to hide the reality of what's happening. The relentless removal of safety / privacy boundaries and the right to say no to men. Pretending that children are just little adults - seen in the pronouncements from all the trans lobby groups when speaking about children.
It's been a very successful tactic to hide the grim reality and safeguarding red flags.

I read a different version of this news story and my concern was why would anyone trust the Government to draw up acceptable guidelines. But of course accept that teachers are currently in a very difficult position - or worse cant exploit that lakc of guidelines.

uk.news.yahoo.com/schools-urgently-guidance-gender-minefield-132045173.html

It may be a nightmare. Many schools, young teachers (and the unions & DfE) have been actively encouraging children to transition while reframing safeguarding, parental responsibilities, facts and science as transphobic. Anything that challenges that will be greeted with hostility.
That's why Ofsted reversing out of Stonewall's control and pointing out that secret transitioning is a safeguarding issue is critical. We need more clear leads from uncaptured leaders in education.