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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling trending again

72 replies

Footballmatchdilemma · 22/11/2022 13:01

JK Rowling is trending again because apparently she’s liked a problematic tweet. I have no idea what it means - can anyone explain? Tweet should be attached here.

I can’t see JKR liking or supporting a racist account…what’s going on?

JK Rowling trending again
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anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:37

MoirasSaggyBundles · 22/11/2022 16:28

I condemn bomb threats. There, happy?

Now do you condemn a hospital that advocates carving the tits off adolescent girls?

You realise that The Center for Gender Surgery at BCH is only a tiny amount of the care they provide for children?

www.childrenshospital.org/departments

It's the Boston equivalent of the Great Ormond Street Hospital in the UK.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 22/11/2022 16:44

JacquelinePot · 22/11/2022 16:37

I'm not sure why people have a problem with LOTT. All they do is repost content that's already freely accessible online. I would think the problem is actually the people creating the batshit content. As for LOTT being responsible for the hospital receiving bomb threats, no. The people responsible for the threats are the ones making the threats.

If it needs saying, I condemn any and all bomb threats.

Probably because they shine a big light, bringing this shit to the attention of new audiences. Taking isolated incidences that can be dismissed as outliers and putting them all together to show just how insidious, widespread and dangerous some of these ideas are. Showing these liberals in plain sight, when they'd rather wheedle around in the background or in their echo chamber where they can't be challenged. Allowing us unworthy ones to have an opinion on them, and allowing them to be subject to a negative opinion, something that makes their Tik Tok safe spaces not feel safe anymore.

ANameChangePresents · 22/11/2022 16:45

Oh, so they are only equipped and willing to cut off a few pairs of healthy tits then. My bad.

TheMarzipanDildo · 22/11/2022 16:46

Footballmatchdilemma · 22/11/2022 15:33

Ok…so this libs of tiktok thing isn’t so awful? I can’t make head nor tail of it, but I’m glad JKR isn’t supporting anything problematic (not that liking something on Twitter is a huge deal, I suppose).

Helen Joyce appearing on GB news had me worried too - I have huge respect for her but to speak on a channel that’s so right wing (Nigel farrage - ugh!) gives me me a twitchy feeling

Andrew Doyle who does most of the GC interviews on GB News isn’t right wing at all- he’s a socialist.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 22/11/2022 16:47

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:37

You realise that The Center for Gender Surgery at BCH is only a tiny amount of the care they provide for children?

www.childrenshospital.org/departments

It's the Boston equivalent of the Great Ormond Street Hospital in the UK.

Yes. Much like the Tavistock. So? You haven't answered my question. If GOSH was advocating chopping the tits off adolescent girls, should I keep quiet because they also treat adolescent girls with cancer?

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 16:48

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:24

Interesting that no-one here has condemned the bomb threats so far.

Maybe go and look on the thread that was dedicated to it, unless it was deleted.

I believe many posters on this board most certainly condemned the bomb threats at the time.

Or do we need to preface every post with a list of denouncements so that we can be suitably pure enough to be not discredited by some posters with new user names...

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 16:51

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:37

You realise that The Center for Gender Surgery at BCH is only a tiny amount of the care they provide for children?

www.childrenshospital.org/departments

It's the Boston equivalent of the Great Ormond Street Hospital in the UK.

So what?

Does that mean that a service that they offer to adolescent girls should not be condemned and brought to the public' view?

Are you seriously trying to absolve them of removing the healthy breast tissue of adolescent girls?

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 16:53

I know... condemn the BBC. They highlight many issues and I am very sure that some of those will have had adverse effects due to someone who lacks the ability to control their actions or feels entitled to react violently.

Who else?.... I know. Any fucking media in the world.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/11/2022 16:54

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:24

Interesting that no-one here has condemned the bomb threats so far.

what a stupid thing to say

MargaritaPie · 22/11/2022 16:57

libsoftiktok is the account that posted false information that led to a Children's Hospital receiving threats and a bomb hoax.

Frankly it doesn't surprise me JK Rowling follows them and links their content.

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 16:58

MargaritaPie · 22/11/2022 16:57

libsoftiktok is the account that posted false information that led to a Children's Hospital receiving threats and a bomb hoax.

Frankly it doesn't surprise me JK Rowling follows them and links their content.

Read the fucking thread Pie It is only 35 posts!!!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/11/2022 16:59

MargaritaPie · 22/11/2022 16:57

libsoftiktok is the account that posted false information that led to a Children's Hospital receiving threats and a bomb hoax.

Frankly it doesn't surprise me JK Rowling follows them and links their content.

Once again, did they make the bomb threats? If not, how were they responsible?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 22/11/2022 17:03

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:37

You realise that The Center for Gender Surgery at BCH is only a tiny amount of the care they provide for children?

www.childrenshospital.org/departments

It's the Boston equivalent of the Great Ormond Street Hospital in the UK.

Can you not answer the question?

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 17:06

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 22/11/2022 17:03

Can you not answer the question?

The original question was

JK Rowling is trending again because apparently she’s liked a problematic tweet. I have no idea what it means - can anyone explain?

I'm not interested in getting involved in any derailment.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 22/11/2022 17:07

So no…

you can’t answer it

fair enough

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 17:13

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 22/11/2022 17:07

So no…

you can’t answer it

fair enough

Well... they have at least admitted it.

Rather hypocritical to then discuss bomb threats that have nothing to do with LoTT, but hey ho!

Circumferences · 22/11/2022 17:15

JKR has received so many bomb and death threats for standing up for women's rights, and is still standing up for women's rights despite the hatred directed towards her, quite frankly she can follow and like whatever she wants on Twitter which is a dying beast on it's way out.

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 17:32

Circumferences · 22/11/2022 17:15

JKR has received so many bomb and death threats for standing up for women's rights, and is still standing up for women's rights despite the hatred directed towards her, quite frankly she can follow and like whatever she wants on Twitter which is a dying beast on it's way out.

oh... good point.

Margarita and anybodyinthere... are you going to denounce the people making rape, death and bomb threats towards JK. What about those who doxxed her and protested in front of her house? And what about all those who posted inappropriate pics on a thread meant for kids to read about the Ickabog?

Or what about just anyone who posts bad faith interpretations of what she says and then makes trans people feel hated and fearful with those bad faith interpretations..... want to denounce those people as well?

Pixiedust1234 · 22/11/2022 17:32

anybodyinthere · 22/11/2022 16:24

Interesting that no-one here has condemned the bomb threats so far.

Did you? Certainly not on this thread. Surely you should have condemned it first.

Im getting so tired of kids wagging their fingers at others whilst spouting shite.

Footballmatchdilemma · 22/11/2022 18:38

Yikes, this blew up. I see I should look into LOTT further.

But on my point about Helen Joyce on GB news I suppose I was thinking that actually it is a bit of an echo chamber. My Dad (presumably some their target audience, right wing pensioner) already thinks TWAW is nonsense - he doesn’t need to be convinced.

But in bringing her views to a channel that most discount as cheap, poorly produced right wing propaganda (at least when it started, maybe things have improved), it feels like the points she’s making are debased somewhat. Even though I’m 100% in agreement with her.

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Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 18:49

And yet OP. GB News has left leaning presenters too.

Andrew Doyle is not ‘right wing’. So to continue to repeat that some people think it is right wing based on some presenters is missing the other presenters and contributors there.

just because some people like to discredit everyone on there doesn’t mean it is true.

Mmmmskyscraper · 22/11/2022 18:53

@Footballmatchdilemma there's a lot of misinformation regarding LOTT/BSC, this Forbes article debunks the myths

www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/08/31/boston-childrens-hospital-bomb-threat-how-right-wing-media-escalate-harassment-of-lgbtq-friendly-places/

The right-wing attacks center on the false claim Boston Children’s Hospital provides hysterectomies to minors as a part of its transgender care, an allegation promoted in recent weeks by Libs of TikTok—whose Twitter account has more than one million followers—and picked up by several right-wing media sites, including the Daily Caller and the Post Millennial, as well as prominent rightwing commentators.

Boston Children’s “does not — and will not — perform a hysterectomy as part of gender-affirming care” on patients under the age of 18, the hospital said, while other independent outlets have also debunked the claim (Libs of TikTok did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Forbes).

LK1972 · 22/11/2022 18:56

OP, that's the only channel that will give her airtime, would you rather she didn't speak at all?

As others have said the BBC, the Guardian etc do not platform anyone who doesn't parrot TWAW, all the GC women have had to accept being published in The Times, the Telegraph, Daily Mail etc for a while now. And the view that somehow that's blasphemy plays into the TRAs hands.

That LOTT tweet is ridiculing someone calling Kanye West a white suprematist, I think it's a good tweet. And the owner of LOTT is an Orthodox Jewish woman, so if she's ok with Kanye's supposed antisemitism who I am to have a purity spiral about it?

LK1972 · 22/11/2022 18:58

@Mmmmskyscraper That hospital may not perform hysterectomies on minors, but it definitely performs double mastectomies on them. Are you OK with that?

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 19:05

Is the Daily Mail right wing? Yet has very securely left wing feminists writing for it?

same with the Spectator?

I feel this need to label media as left or right wing when the reality is many are just media who will publish something they think will sell clicks or papers.

I laugh when people call Murdoch ‘right wing’. One of his papers in Sydney, one of his is original stable so to speak, is targeted at trade Union supporters.