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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Attempting to cancel Mrs Doubtfire

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WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 02:29

twitter.com/megmcgrady/status/1592459772145831936

Enjoy.

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ReunitedThorns · 17/11/2022 09:44

The first rule of being trans is to look at everything in the context of how you should be offended by it and how it can increase your sense of victimhood.

The second rule of being trans is to be hypocritical. You want to trans historical figures (whether real or fictional), and then you criticise the representation of someone who you've retro-actively transed.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 17/11/2022 09:50

Fuck me, the irony is strong with this one.

But yes, as a general rule, no one should ever be allowed to dress up and pretend to be something they’re not. Which is going to hit the acting profession hard. But thems the breaks, what can you do?

MuraRocker · 17/11/2022 09:54

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CrossPurposes · 17/11/2022 10:00

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Surely there's been a "takedown" of Some Like It Hot?

MintChocCornetto · 17/11/2022 10:09

CrossPurposes · 17/11/2022 10:00

Surely there's been a "takedown" of Some Like It Hot?

I will riot if they do! 😂

ErrolTheDragon · 17/11/2022 10:12

Let's hope they don't find out about drag queens then. They might just implode.

Spot the difference... 'Mrs Doubtfire' is elderly, unattractive and not remotely sexy. Not 'girl mode'. This isn't the right sort of 'womaning better than a woman'.

Wanderingowl · 17/11/2022 10:34

Brefugee · 17/11/2022 08:10

The real irony in that is that, sure he has to use a disguise, but he can't disguise himself as a man because who would employ a male nanny? so he dresses as a woman to comply with an out dated sexist idea that men can't be nannies. And so on and so on.

He didn't want to be a nanny. He wanted to be back in the family home after his wife ends their marriage. He dressed up a woman (with an elaborate latex special effects mask) to fool his wife into hiring him as a nanny for their children. Partially to spend time with his kids, but mainly so he can convince her to go back to her husband and break up her new relationship with Pierce Brosnan.

It was adapted from the book Madame Doubtfire by Anne Fine, which was much funnier, but also more unrealistic in that the wife and oldest daughter don't immediately recognise their husband/father who isn't even wearing a latex mask in the book. What is good about both the book and film is that by the end Daniel recognises that he was a shit husband and father and accepts that his wife made the right decision, they go on to have an amicable divorce and he makes a better effort as a father.

I'm thinking that the main reason there is an attempt to cancel the film is the scene in which the two older children realise Mrs Doubtfire is a man. (This scene isn't in the book.) They walk in on him standing up to piss and immediately freak out, assuming he is a threat and a predator. IIRC, the boy is afraid and grabs a tennis racket to protect him and his sister. And they are only calmed down upon realising the man is their father. It re-enforces the idea that random men dressing up as women to access the private spaces of women and children is something to be justifiably scared of.

MuraRocker · 17/11/2022 10:35

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Babasghost · 17/11/2022 10:43

The live action role playing is far more offensive!

So the most oppressed group the best they can do to demonstrate victimhood is to trawl for 1990s movies that may be offensive should they have bothered to watch them.

3 women per week are killed in the UK by current or x male partners. So fuck off with your vanity you utter narcassit women face wearing dicks.

StellaAndCrow · 17/11/2022 10:47
Mrs Doubtfire recut as a horror movie.

Interesting comment
"I remember an interview with Robin about the makeup for this movie, and how after seeing himself being characterized as a woman for the first time he told the makeup artist "gosh, I really look like a lady. Now make me pretty"

The artist told him " I already did, this is the best I can do", and Robin tells he was emotionally devastated because he suddenly felt ugly and unimportant. He realized that is what most aging women go through every day, and how acting in this movie challenged his views on women a lot. Powerful stuff, one of the best interviews he ever gave if you can find it."

viques · 17/11/2022 10:56

So this is why Emma Thompson was cast as Miss Trunchball in the film of Mathilda . It all makes sense to me now……

Personally I am looking forward to seeing Ian McKellen as Mother Goose in Mother Goose. Saw him as Widow Twankey a few years ago and he clearly loved every minute of it, born to be a classical actor panto dame that man .

jay55 · 17/11/2022 10:57

MandyMotherOfBrian · 17/11/2022 09:50

Fuck me, the irony is strong with this one.

But yes, as a general rule, no one should ever be allowed to dress up and pretend to be something they’re not. Which is going to hit the acting profession hard. But thems the breaks, what can you do?

Ahh but then we'd be kink shaming the furries.

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 11:00

Well the kids have begged me to take them to see it on stage now and so we will have to go and we can all be very offended. There's even a mug that says "Helooooo!"

Just shocking.

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Notanotherusername4321 · 17/11/2022 11:05

Nuns on the run?

men dressed up as women and Scots accents!

there’s a whole world of films out there to be offended by.

Notanotherusername4321 · 17/11/2022 11:11

Stumbled across this while searching to see if Nuns on the Run was a trans target:

Becoming transgender to avoid becoming a nun
You read the title. I have some issues since childhood. Call it OCD or whatever. Basically, I was born female but transitioned because I thought God wanted me to become a Christian nun, and I didn’t want that. I had (and still have) thoughts about it. It’s quite disturbing. Gives me anxiety. Thing is I always get nervous about religion.

I had obsessions about it for a long time as a Catholic. I had issues about my gender and other things and I had this fear that taking vows would seal my fate as a female forever. Also, in my head I always saw religious sisters as submissive of some sort. Submissive, and therefore corresponding to the patriarchy of the olden days. I didn’t want to lose my freedoms.

I know it’s weird and you might all think I’m psychotic now. I no longer identify as male but the thoughts about it still happens. I fear this is God’s will for me to suffer like this. Just needed to vent it out.

off topic but bloody hell the /detrans Reddit is heartbreaking

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 11:17

Notanotherusername4321 · 17/11/2022 11:05

Nuns on the run?

men dressed up as women and Scots accents!

there’s a whole world of films out there to be offended by.

Ohhhh I love Nuns on The Run. Robbie ❤️

Yes they will have to cancel all of Monty Python a bit more won't they?

I wonder what it all can be replaced with? Maybe the musicals of non binary people singing about being non binary. Can't wait to watch that Christmas show!

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WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 11:18

I've got it.

NANNY BINARY!!!!!

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DameMaud · 17/11/2022 11:19

'Nons on the Run'?

SudocremOnEverything · 17/11/2022 11:21

Shouldbesleeping1 · 17/11/2022 09:33

@SudocremOnEverything I know. My point isn't about that. It's about logic Meg is using and the glaring hole in Meg's argument. If x, then y is true, then .....

I’m convinced that there is no coherent position. It’s a bunch of people who actually are professionally offended. They basically seek out opportunities to be publicly offended and to cancel things on that basis. The position shifts to whatever allows them to be most outraged on twitter.

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 11:22

DameMaud · 17/11/2022 11:19

'Nons on the Run'?

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Notanotherusername4321 · 17/11/2022 11:23

Yes they will have to cancel all of Monty Python a bit more won't they?

what’s the opinion on this scene I wonder.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=jlo7YZW8vPA

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 11:27

"From the big hearted makers of NANNY BINARY, prepare to laugh, cry, weep, sing, dance and cut your hair. "NONS ON THE RUN" will take you into the heart of suburban life where you see "Alex" run to the bus stop with their friend "Alix" to catch their bus to get to drama school. A heartwarming Christmas favourite sure to become a big hit."

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IcakethereforeIam · 17/11/2022 11:39

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 07:53

Not someone you want to spend Xmas watching films with. Imagine their response when watching anything or eating anything.

You'd be unwittingly microaggressing them even as they unwrap their presents because they would be offended by the paper if it has robins on because Robin can be a gender neutral name and also by Christmas itself because Christ is wearing a long white and blue gown and has long silky hair and is mocking the sacred soul of a TW by looking like he washes his hair with herbal essences.

I hope they don't buy a turkey with giblets.

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 11:39

"I loved the song on the bus where Alex and Alix compare their gender neutral pleather shoes."

StarStarStarStarStar The Guardian

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AlwaysFoldingWashing · 17/11/2022 12:26

WandaWomblesaurus · 17/11/2022 08:00

No pigs in blankets because of penises.

No Harry Potter marathon.

No pork stuffing because it's shaming peoples kinks.

No cranberry sauce because of colonialism and problematic associations with America and thanksgiving and Trump.

Omg this is hilarious! Pork stuffing was my favourite 😂

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