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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
PriOn1 · 16/11/2022 09:27

Where are the accusations? I can only see a tweet from Ash and Rusty when I follow the link. Should there be a separate link to a newspaper article?

KittensNotMittens · 16/11/2022 09:31

I saw this in the paper that he was accused of transphobia - of course - because the ‘crossing’ has some pink stripes (honesty it looks like a giant game of pick up sticks) and his dog had difficulty using it as - a CROSSING.

Believerinbiology · 16/11/2022 09:36

It's not a crossing...Ash said it was a pedestrianised street but the paint confused the guide dog as in some ways looks like a crossing but isn't. This has happened before with other painted streets but no transphobia accusations then as it was different colours.
Can imagine the difficulties in places where it is the actual crossing painted too.

badbaduncle · 16/11/2022 09:36

Apologies I've messed up the link. The version I saw had tweets calling them transphobic and then others wondering if the dog was going to get arrested for a hate crime. I'll try and find it..

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KittensNotMittens · 16/11/2022 09:39

I have walked my almost blind sister across such ‘street art/crossings’ she said it was bloody painful and really hard to navigate (she kept mis stepping).

Plus they all looked really rubbish after a few weeks (all worn and scruffy) as they aren’t meant to last long. Waste of money.

Believerinbiology · 16/11/2022 09:41

Ash is a woman. Obviously when any woman raises a concern about anything these days it's cos they're transphobic.

nilsmousehammer · 16/11/2022 09:42

'That doesn't work for my SEND need, and-'

'Youre transphobic!'

How does that meme go...."Look Simba, everything the light touches...'

knittingaddict · 16/11/2022 10:04

That's awful.

Both of my parents are/were blind and this would have made walking around really difficult. My mum had a guide dog and my dad had some vision up until recently and it would have been a nightmare for all concerned.

To be fair, it looks like it would give even sighted people a migraine.

knittingaddict · 16/11/2022 10:09

I read most of those mentioning transphobia as sarcasm rather than serious accusations of transphobia.

ArabellaScott · 16/11/2022 10:56

Twitter comment: 'Could you not walk slightly further down and cross?' Hmm

It actually seems this isn't strictly a crossing, as its been pedestrianised, but the road surface/kerbs etc still look very much like a crossing. I can see how it would confuse a guide dog.

Only a few years back it seemed councils were taking steps to try to make towns more accessible. Has that all just been forgotten?

nilsmousehammer · 16/11/2022 11:30

Defeats all understanding, doesn't it?

What is the POINT of a crossing? To help people get more safely through traffic.

What's more important: that the crossing is easiest for a blind person and their guide dog to access and be safe? Or that the crossing signals TQ+ political visibility to the seeing world?

beastlyslumber · 16/11/2022 16:00

Dogs are transphobic. Okay.

UrsulaPandress · 16/11/2022 16:02

Strangely most animals recognise male and female humans very easily.

They are all transphobic bastards.

Lockheart · 16/11/2022 16:44

How can it be transphobic? It's pink and blue and yellow street "art". Garish and fugly but I don't see anything trans-related here. Is it supposed to be?

Helleofabore · 16/11/2022 16:46

Remember the horses??? Horses and rainbow crossings.

beastlyslumber · 16/11/2022 17:16

Dogs and horses. All transphobic bigots.

Cats, too. I mean, they just hate everyone.

TheBiologyStupid · 16/11/2022 17:33

nilsmousehammer · 16/11/2022 11:30

Defeats all understanding, doesn't it?

What is the POINT of a crossing? To help people get more safely through traffic.

What's more important: that the crossing is easiest for a blind person and their guide dog to access and be safe? Or that the crossing signals TQ+ political visibility to the seeing world?

This! What has the world come to when it needs to be pointed out? FFS!

MangyInseam · 16/11/2022 17:43

nilsmousehammer · 16/11/2022 11:30

Defeats all understanding, doesn't it?

What is the POINT of a crossing? To help people get more safely through traffic.

What's more important: that the crossing is easiest for a blind person and their guide dog to access and be safe? Or that the crossing signals TQ+ political visibility to the seeing world?

It's very weird, this intrusion of politics, or even of social justice, into areas that are totally unrelated. Even if it's a cause you support, it is weird.

In my city they wrote Black Lives Matter in huge letters down one street. If you go up to the fort at the top of the hill, you can read the words, but on the street you can't, it's just a lot of yellow paint that you can't read.

It really threw me for a loop the first day I went down there. It is a busy city area that I don't usually drive in , and there were all these weird markings on the road.

But what was the point of the whole thing? To make me a good anti-racist? To cause car accidents? I somehow doubt it would influence the views of anyone who didn't agree with the BLM movement.

Helleofabore · 16/11/2022 18:03

The continued pleas of 'we did it to be inclusive and beautiful / celebratory / whatever' is interesting.

Because these people who managed the project simply did not seem to understand what 'inclusive' is outside their pet groups....

KittenKong · 16/11/2022 18:13

There are some old ones in a street near us - predating all the compulsory pride plus versions. It’s patterns, wording, foreign writing/alphabets - it was created as ‘art’ but is quite distracting and people do stop on crossings to peer at them to try to work out what they are (we have a lot of tourists).

They have been there for years - well pre-covid - and look incredibly scruffy now. They are all on pedestrian light crossings though so at least you should be using them with the green man.

JellySaurus · 16/11/2022 21:06

Ironically, it is not a message at all. It is a piece of street art, specifically designed to discourage certain road users (cars) from entering a pedestrian area. Unfortunately the design did not take other road users (visually impaired pedestrians) in to account at all.

EmmatheStageRat · 16/11/2022 21:30

JellySaurus · 16/11/2022 21:06

Ironically, it is not a message at all. It is a piece of street art, specifically designed to discourage certain road users (cars) from entering a pedestrian area. Unfortunately the design did not take other road users (visually impaired pedestrians) in to account at all.

I’m the parent of a teen DD who is blind and, politics and gender politics aside (for the record, I identify as a GC feminist), I am heartily sick of planners and the wider society forgetting about the safety needs of people with visual impairments.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 16/11/2022 21:39

UrsulaPandress · 16/11/2022 16:02

Strangely most animals recognise male and female humans very easily.

They are all transphobic bastards.

My dear old collie used to be obsessed with chasing the ball but knew I was useless at throwing it (unlike DH) so when he wasn't with us in the park ddog used to pick some random bloke and drop it at his feet. It was always a man. Except that one day she got it wrong and picked a tall woman in a long raincoat!

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