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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stonewall's Workplace Equality Index for 2023

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ChristinaXYZ · 05/11/2022 10:15

What Stonewall is still requiring of employers and organisations for 2023

www.conservativesforwomen.org/stonewall-2023-so-has-anything-changed

Sex Matters Stonewall Champions list - the organisations and companies still signed up to this. And in many cases spending tax payers' money on it

sex-matters.org/stonewall-champions-list/

If you are in the mood for writing to your MP especially about the attitudes to sex /gender in government departments, health authorities and universities, Caroline Ffiske has put together some useful extracts indicating some of the problems still involved in submitting to Stonewall's requirements.

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Needmoresleep · 05/11/2022 10:30

What a useful list. Not just those who are on it, but those who finally have decided that they don't need to pay a lobby organisation to dictate their policy.

The NHS and University sectors are very captured. The latter should be concerned that they are sending out the wrong message on free speech. I am also surprised at how many charities see Stonewall having a greater claim on scare resources than their core aims.

So drinking in Wetherspoons, shopping at Primark and donating to Cancer Research UK.

I also wonder about the British Horseracing Authority. I assume that the 3.15 fillies race at Newmarket is cancelled as it is impossible to know how a horse identifies.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/11/2022 10:50

I would say it’s good to see that my CCG has left & my council isn’t there but working with ppl at both, all the email signatures are awash with pronouns, event sign ups ask for pronouns, and they list the protected characteristics incorrectly so they’ve gone but the damage is done

also wasnt it the case that some of the leavers had decamped to global butterflies who are just as bad

zanahoria · 05/11/2022 10:55

Are they selling indulgences yet?

NancyDrawed · 05/11/2022 11:01

Interesting that Swim England have left - it was their policy and Man Friday that introduced me to the madness that is gender ideology.

I wonder whether it is because they have seen the light, or because they feel that their policies are now fully inclusive (of one particular group, anyway!)

gnntnc · 05/11/2022 11:04

Interesting

NancyDrawed · 05/11/2022 11:08

I also find it interesting that a list of these companies are no longer easily accessible on Stonewall's website, whereas they used to be.

Is it to prevent those companies from being contacted and challenged on their policies? And if so, why? If what they are doing at Stonewall's behest is so fantastic and inclusive surely both they and SW would want their partnership shouted from the rooftops?

Boiledbeetle · 05/11/2022 11:28

I've just been reading the top one of the two links.

How any company has progressed further than starting to read what's expected of them if they sign up without thinking nah! And throwing the document in the bin is beyond me.

The snapshots shown are nuts.

weebarra · 05/11/2022 11:35

Yup, my employer is still there.

ChristinaXYZ · 05/11/2022 11:58

zanahoria · 05/11/2022 10:55

Are they selling indulgences yet?

Chortle!

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Needmoresleep · 05/11/2022 12:13

Swimming was captured early on. Edward Lord, him of the astonishing networks, was chair of the Amateur Swimming Assn until 2015. I assume a combination of Lia Thomas and Sharron Davies, as well as the fact that swimming is not as male dominated as sports like football or cricket, helped tip the balance. But wtf England Netball.

noraclavicle · 05/11/2022 12:42

So drinking in Wetherspoons, shopping at Primark and donating to Cancer Research UK.

Primark?! I don’t think so.

Interestingly, my organisation is not down on that list as having left. But I’ve seen an FOI response stating that it did leave last year. We have lots of pronoun-people (sadly all female) that have increased in number since it left though.

Needmoresleep · 05/11/2022 13:11

Primark seem to have left the scheme. Weren't they the ones who have had problems with their unisex changing rooms.

Looking forward to telling DD that if she takes a Masters she is going to UCL or Sheffield. At least if she expects a parental contribution. (Or she lobbies Imperial to see sense.)

Scrabble · 05/11/2022 13:17

Everything Scotland related is still there. The stance taken by the government has a big influence, doesn't it?
Very unimpressed by the university sector.

icantlivewithouttea · 05/11/2022 13:36

I’m pretty sure the organisation I work for didn’t renew their ‘membership’ but is still on the list. I wonder how many companies/ organisations are just quietly distancing themselves rather than announcing it.

RubyTrees · 05/11/2022 13:48

How depressing it is to go through that list.

I wasn't surprised that my former employer is still on there. When I left them a few years ago they were busy publishing gushing articles on the intranet celebrating a male employee who came to work as a woman on 2 days of the week.

GrimDamnFanjo · 05/11/2022 13:56

Garden Court Chambers - lol

picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2022 14:01

The nurse apologised for asking me my pronouns yesterday. She 'has to'.

I didn't argue, but said it was ridiculous- think I actually said 'I'm sorry you have to do that'.

Ramblingnamechanger · 05/11/2022 19:49

Leeds still there of course. Might explain the paedocriminal in LW Aid.

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