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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Spectator on reform of the equality act

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Hoardasurass · 04/11/2022 11:08

Yet another brilliant article on the equality act and how its being misused
www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-to-do-about-the-equality-act/

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FeatherPend · 04/11/2022 13:59

I think it's pretty poor - right at the end Toby gets the protected characteristics defined in the Equality Act wrong:

"It is unlawful for a public authority, such as a university, to discriminate against a person because they hold those beliefs, just as it would be to discriminate against someone on the basis of their race, gender or religion."

Given this is an article about the Act, the least he could do is read the Act.

It's 'sex', Toby, not gender.

TheirEminence · 04/11/2022 14:43

Ouch. That's poor. Come on, Spectator!

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 04/11/2022 15:03

One thing about the Equality Act not widely understood is that it didn’t create much in the way of new law. Rather, it grouped together several laws that were already on the statute book, such as the Equal Pay Act 1970, and put them all in a single act of parliament. It’s doubtful the public has much appetite to repeal laws that in some cases have been around for more than 50 years.

I'd rather we don't repeal the Equal Pay Act (or equivalent parts of the Equality Act), thanks.

nilsmousehammer · 04/11/2022 16:52

The Equality Act hoovered up lots of pieces of legislation into one bundle, and it hasn't worked well.

For a start we've had the action demonstration that one lobby with sanity issues can successfully fog half the country into believing that there's only one characteristic and not nine, and manage to lose the eight other characteristics entirely in equality assessments. We now have active conflicts between the interests of the characteristics, we have ministers and MPs taking sides on the characteristics and which trump which, and enabling the vanishing and minimising of the groups they don't have primary interest in.

If the Equality Act had remained in its separate pieces of legislation for each characteristic, and had been spread out between ministers whose job it is to know, understand and speak for that characteristic, it would have been much more difficult for this mess to have happened.

It would be much better to move it back to separate briefs, separate legislation, and at this point to have an LGBT+ brief and minister holding it (who btw would have to realise that this means everyone who is LGBT+ regardless of political affiliation and belief in gender identity, NOT just a brief controlled and run by gender ideology screaming that no, no lesbians exist who don't want cock shut up and die in a greasefire) and a human female brief who is NOT going to be all confused about the needs of half the population based on a tiny proportion of males and would represent females properly. TQ+ has coverage in the gender identity section already.

The only group who would lose out by moving this back to separate briefs is one; that is the one who has benefitted from control and successful monopolisation over the other eight characteristics.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/03/2023 15:50

Though this has reached over 100,000 signatures so there should be a Parliamentary debate, it will help if people kept signing and also write to their MPs.

This Times article explains a lot too
MPs to consider gender petition backed by JK Rowling

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mps-to-debate-gender-petition-backed-by-jk-rowling-qh0h0bctk
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4534821c-bf89-11ed-b52d-512231a0c9aa?shareToken=a2be6368ec3ec1a7a1e413545f54b9d9

To sign:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4758082-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-3

Then to write to your MP:
sex-matters.org/take-action/write-to-your-mp-about-the-petition/

Forester1 · 18/03/2023 17:14

I’ve written - yet to get a response….

Melroses · 18/03/2023 17:23

I remember a Peer saying that she thought the EA should go during a zoom thing and being 😮but now I know she was right.

It just seems to favour people who can bring court cases to get their rights balanced, and without free legal aid for all then those who cannot afford the time and money for legal processes for things that should be automatic, then they get discriminated against.

I also thought it was interesting how they repealed all the useful sex discrimination legislation but not the GRA.

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