Jordan from channel 4 on gay star news

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

i am trying, really trying, to understand why transition helps people with gender feelings.

jordan seems to say that bullying for hair happened when younger, now has realised the hair is great and feels happy about that.

jordan told Jordan’ s GP their diagnosis and does not mention exploring whether trauma/neurodiversity/sexuality struggles were contributing to the gender issues.

and is very happy with the girlfriend who is a lesbian but happy with Jordan’s physiology (I assume that is penis, rather than mitochondria)

and taking lots of oestrogen makes your mood unstable

and you can transition at any age without any intervention

and be a fetish if you want to be. But also don’t.

and Jordan loves us all. Even though we are unknown to Jordan we are very special.

what am I missing?

Was there an explanation about why taking cross sex hormones and having breast implants and getting your Willy onto prime time tv helps to manage gender dysphoria?

is there anything here of substance that can help me understand?

R4 The Now Show, for anyone wondering.

Given the current Educate and Celebrate conversation about Jordan: 'he wasn't in schools' cos we do schools education without dicks on pianos' versus the evidence that he was in schools - BBC due diligence is a bit shit right now? Or Now Show editorial decision to push forward boundaries regardless cos 'humour'/LGBTQIA rights'?

"Transgender women need to pee and poo as well
There’s no conspiracy to steal your toilets
Would you prefer I did my business in the men’s
Administering BJs to your boyfriends"

I had the misfortune to turn on the radio just at this point of the song and turned off again after making a mad wild guess that this would be the penis piano player everyone's been on about.

In answer to the question, yes mate I would prefer you do your "business" in the men's with the rest of your brethren. HTH.

I seem to have been deleted because of ...pronoun use?. Let me try again to accommodate the person with a penis. This time with no introductory pronouns. And no additional commentary. I'll just let it stand as it is.

H: Tonight’s musical guest is a trans comedian from Essex who’s lived in Scotland and Sweden, well I hope she lived in Stockholm and Sweden.
Well I hope she liked those haggis meatballs that we left in the greenroom. It’s Jordan Gray.

JG: Thank you very much indeed, thank you for having me, I’ve got some important information.

Lot of lies got told during lockdown. Lot of rumours got spread.

Then lockdown ended but those rumours have survived so I’ve written a song to put some of those rumours to rest and I should like to perform that for you now if that would be alright?

“We were stuck inside for a long long time, staring at a screen, swallowing its lies
So what I’m about to say might come as a surprise,
But I hope it’s not too late

To set a few things straight
Nobody asked for a gender neutral potato head
It started as a joke, In a facebook post
And you all just believed it, yeah
And nobody cares about the sex of Mr potato head
But you’ll believe anything as long as it goes viral
Why read the article when you could just retweet the title
Whatever happened to this world’s respect for science
5g did not cause the corona virus

That was gays
Transgender women need to pee and poo as well
There’s no conspiracy to steal your toilets
Would you prefer I did my business in the men’s
Administering BJs to your boyfriends
And no ones’ trying to track you with a microchip
Your life is boring, trust me, noone’s listening
Since the virus you refuse to order Chinese food
But you’re happy to appropriate their whispering
Such a clever joke never gets what it deserves, that’s fine
Nobody asked for a gender neutral potato head
But if you care so much
Why don’t you just go marry a potato
Thanks for having me, it’s very important that you heard that.

Would you prefer I did my business in the men’s
Administering BJs to your boyfriends

Yep. Go ahead. It's not my boyfriend. You're not shaming me by this 'threat' if I don't say yes to you sharing my space, person with a penis.

Was just about to mention the Now Show Pombear should Transwomen use male bathrooms?

I may have shouted YES rather loudly.

I suspect Jordan could really do with some help and support as it sounds like growing up has been tough and life is hard. The BBC, channel 4 and other media platforms shouldn't be exploiting Jordan to look hip & relevant.

"Administering blow jobs" in the male toilets? Whatever happened to "We just need to pee"?

Just cannot help saying the quiet bits out loud can they?

Maybe Jordan needs help.

I'm more concerned that anyone in the R4 Now Show production team who will no doubt be on social media and couldn't have ignored women's discussion right now about privacy, dignity, safety in women's spaces and have thought 'yay, let's have that (redacted) on our show to joke about how if they're not in women's spaces they'll be blowing their boyfriends in the men's toilets.

Even if (redacted) isn't funny in any other way - let's push the boundary and show we're 'down with the cool people'.

Saying the quiet bits out loud.

If this is what you even think of doing in public toilets, that makes it completely clear why no women want you anywhere near theirs.

And to the watchers of the thread, who report and get us deleted for using our words.

We still get the message out there to the lurkers and the readers of these threads who day by day see what's allowed to be said (reality) and what's not (gaslighting and suppression).

Deletions are telling. It doesn't aid your cause.

Clarification - what's NOT allowed to be said (reality) and what remains on these threads (gaslighting and suppression)

What was lost on my deleted post was the absolute misogyny slipped into an innocuous song about Mr Potato Head - whoops, BJs on your boyfriends cos you didn't let me pee and poo in your space.

It's sexual aggression wrapped up in glittery Mr Potato Head songs, and the audience applauds.

I heard this too. My level of swearing alerted DH to this being the penis piano player.

Not as misogynistic as the Ch4 debacle, but (literally) what a wanker.

And what makes me the most angry is this is just slipped into mainstream comedy. Ha ha women, men who say they're women 'just want to pee and poo' in your space...you're an idiot for not wanting that, especially cos I might blow your boyfriend otherwise' ....and everyone claps.

Comedy used to challenge the status quo.

Given that the status quo right now in our society, driven by so many of the organisations we work for, get services from, are governed by, seem to be saying 'yay women, accept people with penises in your spaces otherwise you're bigots', I've lost my faith in comedy 🙁

Jordan isn't gay. Why on gay star news? Why administering bjs to other men? My boyfriend isn't gay either, he wouldn't want a bj from another bloke (i showed him a picture and asked, he's upstairs now - vomiting).

'Administering' that all sounds a bit clinical.

I know, 'Form an orderly queue. Next'.

It sounds like a threat of sexual assault to me.

Whatever happened to this world’s respect for science

from a man who thinks they're a woman?

right you are

Yes, indeed.

Jordan seems to be highly invested in being sexually desirable/desired.

I assumed that Jordan was HSTS, not AGP. Appear that my assumption was wrong if Jordan has a girlfriend.

'Jordan says when she was living as a young man, he described himself as a ‘red-blooded male’ who always had relationships with women'

metro.co.uk/2018/01/24/first-ever-transgender-contestant-voice-undergo-breast-enlargement-7258342/

Direct quote MN, I isn't misgendering!

Peeing, pooing and administering blow jobs sounds like some quality multitasking.

Puts me in mind of “why take 2 bottles into the shower?”

DD and I both screamed "yes" at the radio. Yes we would rather you use the men's toilets! Especially if you think public toilets are places where you want to engage in sex acts with strangers.

I screamed at the radio too.

Just for info, The Now Show has twitter twitter.com/bbcnowshow