Caroline Farrow update

[RoyalCorgi]

You'll all recall that a few weeks ago Caroline Farrow was arrested by police, having been accused by a person (can't remember if we're now allowed to say their name) of posting malicious content about them on Kiwi Farms. Caroline had the cast-iron alibi that she was playing the organ in church at the time the content was posted.

When she was arrested her laptop and phone were seized. She has now found out why her phone was seized:

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Apparently someone had posted on Kiwi Farms a court order that showed that the complainant has an outstanding debt of £29k to Associated Newspapers and demanded that they attended court for questioning over their finances.

Associated Newspapers own the Mail, by the way - this person, who is notoriously litigious, had a legal action against them which they lost.

Of course, Caroline was able to prove that she was not the person who posted the court order.

She also wonders how it is that "the police can be used as private militia in this way."

That's something we'd all like to know the answer to.

Thank you for clearing that up as its been bugging me.

So there are two routes for them to get to the devices. One signed by a magistrate which requires a little evidence (well, at least a bit more than she's a stinky mean person) OR an arrest which I also thought required a little more evidence than being accused of being stinky and mean.

If no evidence is required for either way then why do those two routes exist in the first place 🤔

I thought (from listening to Fair Cop!) that the police had to have 'reasonable grounds' for arresting someone, and that they took it pretty seriously.

Can you make a complaint about being arrested? Presumably you're entitled to know the grounds, maybe under a SAR if nothing else? If they aren't robust, is there going to be some kind of penalty (an official reprimand?) for the officer who signed off on your arrest? Could you even sue for wrongful arrest?

Sorry to put this on you, but seems like it would be a public good to discourage this behaviour from the police in future.

I must be missing something here - why don’t the police just tell the complainant to fuck off?

The police told me that they had to arrest me because an allegation had been made which they needed to investigate.

Once arrested they can then gather evidence.

There is literally no evidence that I am these posters, there can’t be and even Surrey police’s official statement has used the words “to prove or disprove.”

If this was just about a Twitter spat then they would have called me in for interview under caution.

I was arrested in front of the kids at dinnertime and had my devices nicked because a notorious transwoman with a history of getting women jailed, told the police I had been anonymously posting memes on the internet that hurt their feelings.

Yesterday a High Court judge said it is difficult to understand why, IF harassment is happening on this site, the transwoman is still looking at it. The judge did not accept that the post with the court order was harassment. He said it was unremarkable.

I wonder what he would say about the photoshop of the queen and her corgis on there, that I was questioned over?

I want to know this too. We hear all the time about people having actual evidence and the police doing nothing about rape and much more serious crimes.

Yet they're all over complaints by this person despite there being no evidence and a long history of harrasing Caroline with vexatious complaints when are thrown out Why?

And yes, I am suing the police. They refuse to disclose at this point however, because it could prejudice the investigation. Complete nonsense.

Caro, I know we’ve snarked and laughed at he who can’t be named here and there (I hear golf is a favoured pass time… specially in a bobble hat 🤮) but I am truely sorry for the amount of shite that you’ve had to endure. I can only hope to have your fortitude.

Fuck em! Let’s roast those chickens til they all come home to roost.

So the police stated that they needed to arrest you in order to gather evidence to see if an offence had been committed? With no evidence either that one had been committed or that you had committed it. That's... pretty astonishing. Best wishes for your case against them.

Thank you for having the courage to sue. It's the only way to challenge this: by insisting on the law being followed, over and over again.

Best wishes.

@SnapeAlways

Interesting question re: corgi!shop 🤔

Both parts of the judicial oath/affirmation feature making a commitment to serve the sovereign [& their heirs and successors] so he might well find it in poor taste - but had Her Late Majesty claimed it as an act of harassment (not that she’d have been that foolish) I’m sure he’d have explained it didn’t meet said standard. Ditto should His Majesty encounter it & be distressed by the literal violence of the photoshop job in question.

He might feel it’s disrespectful/in poor taste (etc) but that’s not exactly anything new - & it’s certainly not your accuser who’s suffering from the image! Certainly it sits within the identified pattern of scouring the internet to claim they are being harassed by the amplification of their own words & sharing of public records about them.

“I demand you stop telling the truth about me!” really doesn’t sound great, even if dressed up with charges of the truth being cruelly-presented. And of course the memes. Humour has no place amidst the telling of truth drat it!

I am so very sorry you’re being put through this. Am keeping you in my prayers - asking for intercession of Saints Mary Magdalene, Gertrude the Great, & Isidore of Seville. Let me know if you want me to add/remove/change Saints; or if you have a particular prayer you’d like me to say for you, won’t you?

Lisa has a pinned tweet dated 4 Oct saying that she will be taking a “keen interest” in the outcome of the investigation but that it wouldn’t be right for her to interfere in an ongoing investigation. She probably has to be very careful not to give any hint of over stepping as she has already had to go in front of the panel to which she reports because of complaints about her public GC views. I really hope she is giving whoever is responsible for Caroline’s treatment hell now that the investigation is over.

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I'm Not sure if there's another post on Caroline Farrow's ongoing dealings with Surrey police.

Today they have harassed her again, due to the original complainant making new complaints against her.... because she speaks the truth on Twitter.

It's appalling to read what she is going through at the hands of Surrey police and how they are indulging and facilitating the ongoing harassment of Caroline. I'm disgusted how this can be happening!

I believe her Twitter page has some decent gardening advice.

Any chance, that you can not only sue the police for false arrest but also, the complainant for harassment/stalking/whatever else you can think of?
Hope you can, it's definitely not right that the complainant can complain about everyone it wants, without any comeback for false/defamatory accusations.