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I know there’s been a lot of discussion about Posie Parker associating with American conservatives to achieve a shared aim, etc. This isn’t about that (I don’t really have an opinion about that) but I guess it is related.

Having watched a few GC videos on YouTube I started watching stuff like Triggernometry and agreeing with much of what they and their guests said. However recently I stumbled upon a similar channel featuring many of the same guests. The channel is run by Carl Benjamin, whose name I vaguely recognised. I watched 2 or 3 of his videos with a growing sense of unease. Though the men on these shows appear to talk a lot of sense about political issues, the way they talk about women makes me feel like they are, at heart, just misogynists. A quick Google search for Carl pretty much confirmed my suspicions. (He was the one who basically said a female MP wasn’t attractive enough to rape). I feel a bit dismayed that people who otherwise seem reasonable are willing to appear on his podcast/channel, laugh at his sexist jokes, agree with his outdated views, etc. My conclusion is that perhaps none of them really care about women, beyond our value as objects of desire, wives and mothers. I still haven’t quite worked out why I feel this way but maybe I’m not the only one. Maybe someone can articulate it better than me!

I guess I just wish that at least one of the popular male podcasters or YouTubers was GC out of a sense of fairness and equality rather than a kind of sexism and misogyny. Regrettably I’m not aware of any female ones.

I don’t even know if this makes sense so please don’t have a go at me, I’m still trying to work out my views. I hope someone can help me figure it out or at least point me towards podcasts/channels which are genuinely more supportive of women.

You can read into it that my comment was snide, that's up to you. Plus the op has returned and seems capable of discussing this without hand holding.

" Though the men on these shows appear to talk a lot of sense about political issues, the way they talk about women makes me feel like they are, at heart, just misogynists. A quick Google search for Carl pretty much confirmed my suspicions. (He was the one who basically said a female MP wasn’t attractive enough to rape). I feel a bit dismayed that people who otherwise seem reasonable are willing to appear on his podcast/channel, laugh at his sexist jokes, agree with his outdated views, etc. My conclusion is that perhaps none of them really care about women, beyond our value as objects of desire, wives and mothers. "

My opinion only and i really don't expect anyone else to agree but nonetheless...
What do you expect at this stage?
For long enough now, predominately middle class women have been telling blokes that they're toxic, that their help is unwanted, including such trivia as having doors held open for them and god forbid one should try and pay a woman a compliment and all hell is let loose.
And look what we ended up with - a whole load of man bun weaklings that daren't say boo to a goose, let alone stand up to the tra's! In fact if anything, they're more likely to stand up for the tra's.
Now those same women expect the toxic men to stick up for them but the men are saying no, can they really be blamed?
The one thing they do agree about, is that there is massive abuse of children going on, that's where they're more inclined to speak and stand with women at the moment.
Thank heavens though for the fantastic KJK, at least she's trying to bridge the gap!

Fraid so. I don't want it to be true, but experience is strongly suggesting it often is.

You mean misanthropes?

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Yes arabella I got carried away there