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Dinosaur Emojis & NPR's Compassionate Look at Antifa - Peter Boghossian

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Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 14:11

This vid dropped last night and is a foray into how misrepresentations because of media representations. National Public Radio in the US did a story on the 10th June, 2022 'Heard on Here & Now Anything' about the dinosaur emoji usage on social media etc.

From around 13 minutes.

It appears that none of those involved in the story even researched why UK women started to use dinosaurs as a protest emblem.

But it covers quite a few cognitive dissonance issues.

[Title edited by MNHQ at poster's request]

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Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 14:15

It really ends up covering a wide range of trope being presented as fact.

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Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 14:18

Mind you, I think that Matt Thorton over simplified it in at one point reduced it to 'language'. But he does seem to get it.

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Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 14:40

Sorry for the numerous posts. I also listened to the section after the Dino’s. From 41 minutes or so.

It is worth listening to as well to see just how Antifa has been portrayed by a media outlet.

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DontAskIDontKnow · 27/10/2022 21:46

I found this earlier. I really enjoyed the way they couldn’t help laughing at the stupidity of it.
what NPR are doing is the same as the bbc and the graun. They gave a good analysis of it all.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 22:23

They didn’t hold back at all.

The deficits in the research they did for the dinosaur piece was very obvious.

The perspectives on the Antifa piece was interesting and spot on in the sense that it did try to divert attention away from the other activities of the group.

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miri1985 · 29/10/2022 20:57

Was just about to make a thread about this when I saw there already was one. Its possibly the worst journalism I have ever seen that they just left out this major part of the story and jumped to the conclusion that GC women wanted to take an emoji away from trans people who like dinosaurs

mirax · 30/10/2022 07:13

miri1985 · 29/10/2022 20:57

Was just about to make a thread about this when I saw there already was one. Its possibly the worst journalism I have ever seen that they just left out this major part of the story and jumped to the conclusion that GC women wanted to take an emoji away from trans people who like dinosaurs

The journalism is not the worst example but part of a pattern we have observed over the years, especially in US media.

SapphireSeptember · 01/11/2022 21:43

🦖🦕 I'll be over here, hoarding the rights our foremothers fought for. FFS, this is ridiculous. Although it explains why I see TRAs with dino emojis on Twitter when I thought it was a rad fem thing.

Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 22:04

It was a doozy bit of misinformation there, wasn’t it.

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Thelnebriati · 01/11/2022 22:33

Noticed how the trans community have a 'loved symbol' and TERFs have 'dog whistles'.

IcakethereforeIam · 02/11/2022 10:59

I like that person who designed the dinosaur emoji, despite not mentioning it in an eight page proposal, subsequently announced the emoji were transgender and had always been transgender. It was a nice parallel with the middle aged grown human males who transition and, despite all the evidence to the contrary, declare they had always known they were transgender.

I thought both sides missed a bit. I thought transpeople liked dinosaur because something, something Jurassic Park all female something, something eggs. Was that another dishonest rewrite?

Bosky · 02/11/2022 14:54

IcakethereforeIam · 02/11/2022 10:59

I like that person who designed the dinosaur emoji, despite not mentioning it in an eight page proposal, subsequently announced the emoji were transgender and had always been transgender. It was a nice parallel with the middle aged grown human males who transition and, despite all the evidence to the contrary, declare they had always known they were transgender.

I thought both sides missed a bit. I thought transpeople liked dinosaur because something, something Jurassic Park all female something, something eggs. Was that another dishonest rewrite?

"I thought transpeople liked dinosaur because something, something Jurassic Park all female something, something eggs. Was that another dishonest rewrite?"

I wondered about that too. I honestly do not recall seeing ANY dinosaur emojis in trans activist Twitter bios until after the emoji designer claimed that the dinos were "transgender" (as if!) which itself was after they had been adopted by UK women in response to David Lammy's bizarre insults.

I also recall the whole "trans dino emoji design" claim being debunked by someone who unearthed proof that the emoji designer mentioned had submitted a proposed design that had been rejected and that the dino emojis actually in use were designed by someone else entirely.

Helleofabore · 05/11/2022 09:37

Thank you for all your replies. This was a good video that as I listened to it further really delivered some interesting points.

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Helleofabore · 05/11/2022 09:40

It seems that the dinosaur story has grown!!

Based on a comment from someone accusing the team of gross misrepresentation, it turns out that NPR took the podcast and edited it to remove the Lammy connection before publishing on their website and distributing for use on other stations.

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RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/11/2022 09:55

Helleofabore · 05/11/2022 09:40

It seems that the dinosaur story has grown!!

Based on a comment from someone accusing the team of gross misrepresentation, it turns out that NPR took the podcast and edited it to remove the Lammy connection before publishing on their website and distributing for use on other stations.

What the fuck is wrong with people

gonna admit i don’t often watch links on mumsnet,

did watch this one yesterday, the bit I don’t get with this whole thing is why lie when its an obvious lie

i mean even if i didn’t watch the segment because reasons, if they’ve cut stuff out then it’s shorter….I’ll be able to see its shorter

people are stupid….thats pretty much all ive got after 53 years on this planet

Helleofabore · 05/11/2022 10:03

Yes Rufus. The dissonance is mind blowing.

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pattihews · 05/11/2022 11:05

NPR, the BBC, the Guardian — all once-trusted media sources now revealed to be captured.

IcakethereforeIam · 05/11/2022 11:31

This is so stupid, and so important.

'Singing off-key about genitals', like that's a bad thing? Yes, I did pause the video to read the transcript.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 06/11/2022 08:27

that's such an interesting listen

it's so sad that a national broadcaster is happy to knowingly mislead it's listeners

I don't think what the BBC was getting up to around this 2-3 years ago was quite this bad, but it was in the same vein.
and bad enough that the current 'we're great journalists, we always tell the truth' 100 years of the BBC adverts being shown make me choke on my corn flakes

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2022 10:31

Here's the podcast transcript. These people are idiots, but at least they did mention the Lammy origin, even though they seem to think that batshit novelist "owned" the "terfs". NPR completely removed that part, which makes their own entirely biased take make zero sense at all.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2022 10:33

The funny thing as grudgingly acknowledged in the podcast was that the dinosaur protest images came up on Google maps as the most recent images for both Labour HQ and the Lancet for ages Grin

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/11/2022 12:22

Thank you Helleofabore for linking this.
It made a fascinating listen this wet Sunday morning. It also demonstrated one of the tools used to wedge trans issues / groups as the most oppressed ever in the whole world - lies and untruths delivered via the media.

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