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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Mail - Peaking the Public

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BrokenFridgeDrawer · 23/10/2022 08:07

I reallly feel The Mail should be given some credit for coverage of the issues discussed on this board.

Today, they have SEVEN stories on their homepage relating to Sex & Gender issues.

That is quite remarkable.

Since friday they have covered:

The LGB Alliance Conference
Kathleen Stock
The Tavistock
James Eses legal case
Rachael Mead legal case
Caroline Noakes support for gender neutral toilets in British Schools
Cambridge University no platforming
The woman refused treatment for requesting Female staff

Day in, day out, they are covering stories that the captured liberal media across the western world, from the BBC in the UK, to RTE in Ireland, won't touch, yet ordianary people are having their rights and liberties and liveliehoods affected.

On a daily basis they are covering important stories

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?sel=site&searchPhrase=trans

It would b e worth a cursory glance every day to see how they are getting the story out there to people like us, who were once ignorant, and now understand. I think they are providing a useful service

OP posts:
Ifailed · 23/10/2022 08:16

Is this the same paper that dictates what clothes women must wear in a published photograph?

Pineapple41 · 23/10/2022 08:19

I agree OP — and I say this as a previously fully paid-up Guardian-reading lefty. There’s plenty of sexism and misogyny in the DM in general but the amount of sunlight they’ve shone onto the gender issue is outstanding.

The cowardice of the Graun, BBC etc in refusing to cover this stuff is just mind-blowing. No doubt they’ll be all over it as more cases like Mermaids and Tavistock come to light and the tide turns, and will be back-peddling like nobody’s business 🙄

Ifailed · 23/10/2022 08:20

OP has been very prolific with their pro-Mail posts today.

Pineapple41 · 23/10/2022 08:23

I would add that it’s important to remember that they’re often coming at this from a different angle, though, not because they care about women’s and gay rights per se, but because of their general “war on woke” stance. So while I respect their willingness to call out the gender BS, I do think it’s important to bear in mind that exposure of gender ideology does not equal feminism.

SallyLockheart · 23/10/2022 08:40

Pineapple. That may be so but they have a wide reach and are highlighting the full range of issues that are arising. We talk about protecting womens rights but their articles help demonstrate what happens when “no debate” has been allowed to flourish and womens jobs, sport, right to dignity and single sex spaces are impacted.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 23/10/2022 08:45

Its a dreadful paper but they are like a dog with a bone over certain subjects and are usually successful in bringing those subjects to people’s attention

inkjet · 23/10/2022 08:57

Thanks for all your links OP. Like others I’m no fan of the paper but given the cowardice of other outlets I have to grit my teeth against the misogyny and say we need it to exist. These stories need to get into the public consciousness somehow and even if the Guardian types will ignore them, others will not. It’s interesting in a way, Guardianistas sneer at Mail readers for absorbing it completely and not reading anything else and yet they do pretty much the same thing.

ValancyRedfern · 23/10/2022 09:00

I agree OP. Unfortunately if I share a Mail link on my FB all of my friends brains will explode. But I am happy that they reach a lot of people.

BlackForestCake · 23/10/2022 09:37

Imagine if the Guardian, New Statesman etc stood as four-square in defence of the other people the Mail hates, like refugees, strikers, benefit claimants, as they do for men pretending to be women. Why don't they? Perhaps because they're not actually left wing.

PermanentTemporary · 23/10/2022 09:41

What Rufus and Pineapple said. If anything were to make me give up completely and say TWAW it would be the Mail's use of this issue. And although I do think it's important, the number of stories they publish is out of any proportion.

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 09:47

Just to be pedantic, it's 'piquing', not 'peaking'

IvyTwines · 23/10/2022 09:53

"the number of stories they publish is out of any proportion."

It's a huge issue. It has swiftly arisen in the last decade yet has affected every walk of life and almost all the families I know. And what used to be my newspaper of choice, The Guardian are either silent or publishing American campus-style dismissive promos for it, and have hounded out the female writers they used to have who expressed their concerns.

NotBadConsidering · 23/10/2022 09:54

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 09:47

Just to be pedantic, it's 'piquing', not 'peaking'

No, it’s peaking. Taking people to the peak.

Changingplace · 23/10/2022 09:54

I’m no fan of the DM but I completely agree that it’s great they’re covering these stories and getting them to their readership, good for them.

The BBC just seems to get a huge amount of criticism every time the subject gets covered.

The cotton ceiling story got heaps of complaints so I think there’s a wariness around it all, hopefully the fact it’s all being covered elsewhere means they will keep trying.

Changingplace · 23/10/2022 09:55

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 09:47

Just to be pedantic, it's 'piquing', not 'peaking'

No it’s not, people peaking on these issues is and always has been peaking - reaching the peak (and going over it).

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 10:02

Changingplace · 23/10/2022 09:55

No it’s not, people peaking on these issues is and always has been peaking - reaching the peak (and going over it).

Well, I have never heard that take on peaking before and I cannot find any instance where 'peak' is the correct form when people mean arousing interest or curiosity.

JellySaurus · 23/10/2022 10:04

I dislike the click-baity, sad-face entitlement of most DM human-interest articles, and the click-baity, headline-grabby style of most of their political articles. But their articles on trans issues are rarely like that. The situations they highlight in these articles are so insane that they need no revving up. The majority of DM articles on the effects of trans ideology that I have read are fairly matter of fact.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 23/10/2022 10:06

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 10:02

Well, I have never heard that take on peaking before and I cannot find any instance where 'peak' is the correct form when people mean arousing interest or curiosity.

It doesn’t mean arousing interest or curiosity, it means reaching the limit. As in “have we reached the peak of this insanity? Oh no, there’s more.” Peak Trans is when you finally get to the point where you see it all.

RockPaperScience · 23/10/2022 10:07

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 10:02

Well, I have never heard that take on peaking before and I cannot find any instance where 'peak' is the correct form when people mean arousing interest or curiosity.

Peak isn’t being used to mean arousing interest in this context. As PP have explained, it’s shorthand / slang for bringing people to the peak, or summit. Before they rapidly descend down the other side and realise what is going on.

FortunesFavour · 23/10/2022 10:07

Sorry Judith, the term “peaking” has been widely used over the past couple of years in this context.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 23/10/2022 10:08

A search for “have we reached peak” and the first one is woke!

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JellySaurus · 23/10/2022 10:08

Well, I have never heard that take on peaking before and I cannot find any instance where 'peak' is the correct form when people mean arousing interest or curiosity.

It's nothing to do with arousing interest or curiosity. It's about coming to a shocked understanding of the situation and realising its awfulness.

This terminology about understanding the effects of trans ideology has been in use for several years. You may not have come across it because the expression was banned on MN for a while.

JudithHarper · 23/10/2022 10:09

FortunesFavour · 23/10/2022 10:07

Sorry Judith, the term “peaking” has been widely used over the past couple of years in this context.

I will consider myself educated, in that case and I won't derail the thread any further.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 23/10/2022 10:10

Oh no, my mistake - oil and trade are up there first, but woke is on the list!

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NotBadConsidering · 23/10/2022 10:12

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