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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DAILY MAIL 22 /10 / 22 - Ritchie Herron, to sue NHS trust following operation after he said he did not want to be gay

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BrokenFridgeDrawer · 23/10/2022 07:52

Man who had sex change operation paid for by NHS says medics 'betrayed' him and left him in lifelong pain because he did not want to be gay

Ritchie Herron, 35, is preparing to sue an NHS trust following his sex change

He said the operation was 'the biggest mistake of his life' and caused him pain

Mr Herron said medics 'betrayed' him after he said he did not want to be gay

A man who had a sex change operation, paid for by the NHS, has said doctors 'betrayed' him and left him in lifelong pain because he did not want to be gay.
Ritchie Herron, now 35, had surgery to remove his penis and testicles as part of the transition from male to female.
But he is now preparing to sue Cumbria, Northumberland, Tyne and Wear NHS Foundation Trust after claiming the operation left him in constant pain.

FULL STORY HERE

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11343887/Man-sex-change-operation-paid-NHS-says-medics-betrayed-him.html

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ResisterRex · 23/10/2022 07:56

Also in the Telegraph though can't see if it's been archived anywhere yet

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/22/betrayed-medics-who-left-pain-didnt-want-gay-says-detransitioner/

Hoardasurass · 23/10/2022 09:00

I am truly horrified by the way Richie was treated and what was done to him is well I don't think I can say quite what I think about that here.
I am however very grateful for his understandable and justified anger and the way he is using it.
When women speak out against gender identity ideology it's very easy for men to dismiss us and the harm that has been done to female's who detransition like Kiera Bell. But Richie is a man and he is very bravely shining sunlight on this dangerous bs and proving that its gay conversion therapy 2.0. Only this one doesn't try to tell you that your sexual attraction is wrong it tells you that it'd your body that needs to be changed.
Honestly if this doesn't wake gay men up to what is being done to men and boys just like them nothing will

Signalbox · 23/10/2022 09:25

ResisterRex · 23/10/2022 07:56

Also in the Telegraph though can't see if it's been archived anywhere yet

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/22/betrayed-medics-who-left-pain-didnt-want-gay-says-detransitioner/

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OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 11:12

Poor guy. Should never have been subjected to this.

I often think the fastest way to end things like this is when doctor's and hospitals start getting sued by their victims. There was that hospital in the USA where a manager was boasting about how much money they made from transitioning someone. When the flow of money starts changing direction, that's when they will, too.

Blahburst · 23/10/2022 11:14

very Sad for him. How awful. I wish him luck. So many young gay people being let down in this way.

Oblomov22 · 23/10/2022 11:55

I don't know what he's expecting. He's blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility for his actions. How many operations has he had? Years and years of blockers and hormones.

reesewithoutaspoon · 23/10/2022 12:09

He was let down. But the people he should be angry with are the groups who lobbied for affirmative care and punished anyone who didn't conform to their ideology.they pushed transition as the only option

ChagSameachDoreen · 23/10/2022 12:11

Oblomov22 · 23/10/2022 11:55

I don't know what he's expecting. He's blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility for his actions. How many operations has he had? Years and years of blockers and hormones.

I agree with this actually. I know there should be checks and balances in place regarding medical ethics, but a small part of me also thinks... live by the sword, die by the sword.

AppleTreeOwner · 23/10/2022 12:29

If you search his name ‘Richie Herron interviews’ on you tube you can view many of his interviews to gain an understanding of his experience, and what life he has now has to lead at only 35 years of age.

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 12:37

ChagSameachDoreen · 23/10/2022 12:11

I agree with this actually. I know there should be checks and balances in place regarding medical ethics, but a small part of me also thinks... live by the sword, die by the sword.

@ChagSameachDoreen

Live by the sword, die by the sword is one thing. But in this case the NHS wielded the sword for him. Personal responsibility is one thing. Enabling a
vulnerable person is another.

ResisterRex · 23/10/2022 12:49

Oblomov22 · 23/10/2022 11:55

I don't know what he's expecting. He's blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility for his actions. How many operations has he had? Years and years of blockers and hormones.

Unduly harsh. He's very brave to go fully public and from what he describes, his care was poor and he's having to live with the consequences. His substack is a harrowing read. I feel nothing but sympathy for him.

The medics are meant to care for us, not butcher us.

Signalbox · 23/10/2022 12:59

I’ve listened to him being interviewed by Benjamin Boyce. If I recall rightly his account is that he was suicidal at the point of surgery and he told them he was having suicidal thoughts so they knew he was not mentally stable. Being mentally unwell may affect a person’s ability to consent. If there was no consent the NHS deserves to be sued. Happily we don’t have a system in this country where you can sign your rights away. This will not stop unless people start to sue the NHS. The ideologically captured clinicians will continue to harm people unless there are consequences.

Signalbox · 23/10/2022 13:04

I don't know what he's expecting. He's blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility for his actions

I think he is taking responsibility for his actions. He is going public with his horrifying (and humiliating) story in the hope that he might prevent harm happening to someone else. He is suing (hopefully successfully) the NHS to ensure they take responsibility for their part in it.

Witchofthekitchen · 23/10/2022 14:08

I truly don’t understand how all of the supposedly progressive activists supporting this can’t see it for the conversion therapy that it is. Homophobia hasn’t gone away, it’s just found a different disguise to hide behind.

ReunitedThorns · 23/10/2022 14:16

Oblomov22 · 23/10/2022 11:55

I don't know what he's expecting. He's blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility for his actions. How many operations has he had? Years and years of blockers and hormones.

Someone with a number of mental and personal issues is not someone of sound mind to be making such decisions.

An anorexic is not given a gastric band. Therapy talks through the issues instead.

This is a failure of gatekeeping, with activists desperate to remove all gatekeeping.

The medical profession is taking advantage of these individuals, particularly in the US where is it very profitable. Non-binary affirmation surgery is the most blatant example of for profit medical care.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/10/2022 14:17

There's plenty of blame to go around. I don't know if Richie has a chance of winning, but I think he can win enough.

I hope he's getting good advice and lots of support, both now and after the case whatever the result.

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 15:04

Witchofthekitchen · 23/10/2022 14:08

I truly don’t understand how all of the supposedly progressive activists supporting this can’t see it for the conversion therapy that it is. Homophobia hasn’t gone away, it’s just found a different disguise to hide behind.

Because very few of the activists are motivated by what you think they're motivated by. And most certainly the majority of them aren't gay themselves. They're "queer". That's not a sexual orientation, it's a political one.

BiscuitLover3678 · 23/10/2022 15:08

ChagSameachDoreen · 23/10/2022 12:11

I agree with this actually. I know there should be checks and balances in place regarding medical ethics, but a small part of me also thinks... live by the sword, die by the sword.

I mean, he clearly had severe mental health issues as was so upset about his sexuality…
He’s the kind of person who needs protecting. Right?
This is why we do actually need pride (or at least a version of it). I actually know of someone in his 30s who has only recently come out and had tried to take his own life TWICE. And he’s from a family who weren’t even overtly homophobic.
Gay people are very vulnerable.

BiscuitLover3678 · 23/10/2022 15:12

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 15:04

Because very few of the activists are motivated by what you think they're motivated by. And most certainly the majority of them aren't gay themselves. They're "queer". That's not a sexual orientation, it's a political one.

Yep. And this is where you find all those ‘feminist’ mumsnetters who aren’t actually feminists. They are just homophobic and transphobic and pretending it’s for feminist reasons. Basically why no one takes gender critical women seriously.

Soontobe60 · 23/10/2022 15:13

ChagSameachDoreen · 23/10/2022 12:11

I agree with this actually. I know there should be checks and balances in place regarding medical ethics, but a small part of me also thinks... live by the sword, die by the sword.

Even when the holder of that sword - or in his case scalpel - is lying to you?

Do you also believe the same of mothers who took thalidomide and subsequently gave birth to disabled children? Or mothers with epilepsy who took sodium valproate? Or women who had breast implants that turned out to be poison to their bodies?

the world is littered with people who have been fed lies by the so called medical profession.

BiscuitLover3678 · 23/10/2022 15:13

Witchofthekitchen · 23/10/2022 14:08

I truly don’t understand how all of the supposedly progressive activists supporting this can’t see it for the conversion therapy that it is. Homophobia hasn’t gone away, it’s just found a different disguise to hide behind.

They’re not. Their only ‘progressive’ stance is protecting women that fit their ideas of vulnerability. Other vulnerable people don’t matter.

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