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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DAILY MAIL 23 / 10 / 22 - MP Rosie Duffield will refuse to call Eddie Izzard a woman - and says 'arrest me now' if misgendering becomes a hate crime

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BrokenFridgeDrawer · 23/10/2022 07:36

Labour MP Rosie Duffield reveals she will refuse to call Eddie Izzard a woman - and says 'you might as well arrest me now' if misgendering someone becomes a hate crime

Asked about the possibility of misgendering someone becoming a hate crime, she said: 'Is that a serious thing? Is that coming to Parliament any time soon? I hope not because you might as well arrest me now. I'm not calling Eddie Izzard a woman.'

FULL STORY HERE

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11344787/Labour-MP-Rosie-Duffield-reveals-refuse-call-Eddie-Izzard-woman.html

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Newcatbrowntail · 25/10/2022 00:09

when will this madness end

Newcatbrowntail · 25/10/2022 00:12

I’m politically in the centre, and I won’t vote for a party with extreme ideology as part of its manifesto. And TWAW is extremism . Get rid of gender ideology and you might get my vote.

RosalindsAFuckingNightmare · 25/10/2022 00:13

Now fully considers himself to be a woman.

Except when accepting acting roles. Because as a TW EI wouldn't get any work, so flits when it suits.

Pixiedust1234 · 25/10/2022 00:17

ahhh thank you. Stopped being a man in a womans dress when deciding to run for political office. Got it.

FunnyTalks · 25/10/2022 15:01

WeepingSomnambulist · 24/10/2022 23:08

Used to be. Izzard was confident and bold about being a transvestite and a man who wore make up and skirts. Then he started going on about being in woman mode or being in man mode, and then he decided that, from now on, he would live in woman mode and wanted to be called she/her. Now fully considers himself to be a woman.

I too used to find him pretty compelling when he was honest about being a man wearing women's clothes - or "they're not women's clothes, they're my clothes" as he put it.

I was really sickened to read the part of his autobiography in which he describes using ladies public loos to get changed the first time he wears a dress. This was way before trans ideology told men this was appropriate. There was no reason at all to disregard women's boundaries like that. Even worse, he tells of a group of teenage girls running away from him, with no consideration of the fear they would have felt. Statistically, it is likely that at least one of those teenage girls had already experienced male sexual violence at the time they discovered Eddie in what was supposed to be a single sex space.

FrancescaContini · 25/10/2022 15:02

❤️ RD

EI is a man

3peassuit · 26/10/2022 11:03

I hate the idea that you are forced to play along with the pretence or suffer the consequences of saying the truth. EL is a privileged male.

IcakethereforeIam · 26/10/2022 11:13

I don't know why, but when I see photos of Eddie in 'girl mode' I keep hearing 'Poor unfortunate souls' by Ursula from the Little Mermaid.

Artygirlghost · 26/10/2022 11:29

I really don't understand how we got to that point.

I think it is great that we challenge gender stereotypes, respect people who have different sexual preferences and I have never had any issues with men who simply enjoy using things like make-up or wearing dresses as I don't see why these should only acceptable when used by women. After all we women can choose to wear trouser suits and have short hair. I also have no issue with gender fluidity. I am a bisexual woman myself and people would probably see me as fairly androgynous rather than a ''girly girl''.

BUT that does not mean I have to believe that you can magically become a woman simply by putting on lipstick and wearing a dress. Or that you can insist that everyone else denies the blindingly obvious: that you were not born a woman and therefore will never biologically be a woman.

The old Eddie who was so comfortable in his skin wearing heels and make-up was great. The new version, not so much.

I also don't get why there needs to be such a fuss about all of this. I am very happy for men to alter their appearance in a way that they consider to be feminine and live openly this way.

I would never discriminate against them in any way and respect their way of self-expression.

But why do I have to call them a woman or welcome them in women's changing rooms or toilets? there are not women and never will be.

That point of view needs to be respected too. Or the fact that many of us worry about children and teens starting their journey towards transition because we know full well that at that age you are unlikely to be equipped mentally and emotionally to make such a momentous decision to forever alter your body.

I think the more extreme the behaviour and demands, the more of us who started on the fence or were initially supportive because no one should be victimised because of their sexuality or appearance will just be put off by it.

I think unfortunately the activists are often achieving the opposite of what they wanted to achieve. All common sense has been lost at this stage and debate is just being silenced.

TheBiologyStupid · 26/10/2022 16:37

Alison Pearson in The Daily Telegraph (archived copy): "When I was on Question Time, Eddie Izzard was there – as the other woman"
archive.ph/OT6wE

WeeBisom · 26/10/2022 23:58

I just read a Guardian article which uses female pronouns for Eddie and calls him 'female identifying'. It's just enraged me. It's SUCH offensive bullshit. Especially when Eddie came out the other day saying that he considers himself to go into girl mode when he wears heels, and 'sensible' boy mode involves wearing flat shoes.

FrancescaContini · 27/10/2022 11:33

I’m wearing flat boots today. Must be my “boy mode”.

Smilelesstalkmore · 27/10/2022 11:34

Izzard's 'boy mode/girl mode' interview with Joe Rogan is doing the rounds again on Twitter. Great for more people to see what sexist regressive nonsense this whole thing is based on.

frazzled1 · 27/10/2022 12:02

The 'girl mode' thing infuriates me.

You're 60 odd Eddie mate. Funny how it's never 'post menopausal, invisible woman' mode.

Sexist crap.

Oh and where's the 60 year old woman in 'boy mode?' Funny that....

TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 12:07

Brilliantly said, frazzled!

FrancescaContini · 29/10/2022 07:33

TheBiologyStupid · 26/10/2022 16:37

Alison Pearson in The Daily Telegraph (archived copy): "When I was on Question Time, Eddie Izzard was there – as the other woman"
archive.ph/OT6wE

Excellent article by Alison on EI - “..don’t take a woman’s spot on Question Time.”

Thank you for sharing it.

ShamedBySiri · 29/10/2022 08:35

IcakethereforeIam · 26/10/2022 11:13

I don't know why, but when I see photos of Eddie in 'girl mode' I keep hearing 'Poor unfortunate souls' by Ursula from the Little Mermaid.

There is a certain physical resemblance, as well as character traits.

Never going to call Eddie Izzard a man.

Everyone in the land knows it. Nick Ferrari on GB news doing his best, while Jean Hatchet gave a great response, but he still ended up accidentally saying "He" towards the end and realised he really didn't have any winning points against Jean so gave up.

Findwen · 29/10/2022 09:05

If a Labour government did make such a law, my new gender pronouns are:
Support Labour, Support Nonces / Labour abuses children

you will use them, right ?

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