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Should I say something to my employer about this?

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hippospot · 17/10/2022 09:22

In the workplace newsletter there is a page on menopause without mentioning the word "women". Instead the word people is used.

It's somewhat ambiguous, no?
I think it could be read as 50% of people = 100% of women suffer low mood etc.

What do you think?

Should I say something to my employer about this?
OP posts:
midgetastic · 17/10/2022 09:30

It's unclear

Is it 50% of people ( all women ) or 50% of people who are going through the menopause

But to be honest the biggest problem I would have is the reason menopause has been overlooked is because it affects women and not men and using women would be a great way to tackle that unconscious bias that makes "woman's problems " lesser

RudsyFarmer · 17/10/2022 09:33

I probably wouldn’t as I just wouldn’t want to put my head above the parapet but it’s obviously they’ve gone for inclusive language and I imagine that’s for fear of criticism.

Rightsraptor · 17/10/2022 09:34

While the absence of the word woman annoys the hell out of me, I can see that as they've stated 'at some point in their menopause transition ....' they may assume readers know who it affects, iyswim. I think that's how they might attempt to explain it.

Though I find it clunky and not good as a public health message because it's not clear. Accuracy and clarity are essential in health messages.

Alcemeg · 17/10/2022 09:59

You could actually delete "of people" from all those bullet points without losing any meaning.

oldwomanwhoruns · 17/10/2022 10:02

Call it out IP, if you can do this without losing your job.
The handmaidens in HR need to know that we women won't take this batsh*t any longer.
It's the thin end of the wedge.

MagpiePi · 17/10/2022 11:20

But men 'suffer' from menopause too! Because they have to live and work with the women who actually go through it, according to my work. Just like all those men who say 'we are pregnant' and 'we are having a natural birth'. 🙄🙄🙄

oldwomanwhoruns · 17/10/2022 11:31

Bl**dy autocorrect, OP not IP
😡

FannyCann · 17/10/2022 11:44

You can call it out OP if you back up your argument with a factual discussion as per this paper.

www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgwh.2022.818856/full

I've posted in our workplace (NHS) intranet correcting gender re sex for sex specific cancers and achieved an apology along with a correction. I've posted this link. I keep a print out in my bag for quick reference if need be and hand out copies to colleagues.

Dress it up with faux concern that people won't understand what is being talked about or if it applies to them unless clear language is used.
It discriminates against people for whom English isn't their first language who won't understand. Also people with poor literacy. (I'm using the word people in this context as both sexes need to understand who goes through the menopause and if this is something that applies to them). Also about 15% of the population are functionally illiterate. I have personal experience of this, a patient who was adept at covering it up, joking with HCAs and getting them to read the menu for instance, being "unable" to write due to their IVI (I'm not being mean, it was one of his tactics). It was another patient who realised and drew our attention to the matter. So depending on where you work you won't necessarily know if there are employees who cannot read.

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