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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trivializing breast cancer for the transgender agenda

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WandaWomblesaurus · 17/10/2022 07:47

ricochet.com/1325742/trivializing-breast-cancer-for-the-transgender-agenda/

Heartbreaking article and also fucking HELL.

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turbonerd · 17/10/2022 08:31

Wot?
My gast is flabbered.

It cannot be real. Who in their right mind thinks that their elective mastectomy should trump a cancer-related one?

It is so sad. The delusion and utter self absorption and consequent cruelty towards others is just very sad.
I think the snake will devour itself, tail first.

Amarette · 17/10/2022 08:43

As a breast cancer survivor it makes me feel sick that anyone would argue to prioritise an elective mastectomy of healthy breasts for ideological reasons over removing a cancerous tumour. Particularly as the longer a tumour stays in the body the more likely it is to spread and create secondary cancers.

It is also a good point that all these people taking hormone treatments may may end up with massively increased cancer rates, putting even more strain on a burdened health service (let alone taking up funds and surgery time to amputate perfectly healthy parts of their bodies).

It is horrific that the narcissism of this harmful ideology seems to be growing ever stronger.

Georgeskitchen · 17/10/2022 08:53

Is this some sort of joke?
No of course not.
Silly me

nilsmousehammer · 17/10/2022 08:58

Come and see the abhorrent misogyny inherent in the system.

KatMcBundleFace · 17/10/2022 09:09

I remember the Irish TRAs who went abroad (against medical advice) during Covid to have their breasts removed.

It then went wrong and they had to have emergency help, pushing other people down the waiting lists.

They couldn't wait.

So extraordinarily selfish.

Ledkr · 17/10/2022 09:12

Horrendous
I had a double mastectomy aged 26 for breast cancer and my poor 20 yeat old dd is waiting for results to see if she has the gene.
They are hardly getting people on side with this sort of shit so I say carry on bringing on the stupid!

nilsmousehammer · 17/10/2022 09:20

KatMcBundleFace · 17/10/2022 09:09

I remember the Irish TRAs who went abroad (against medical advice) during Covid to have their breasts removed.

It then went wrong and they had to have emergency help, pushing other people down the waiting lists.

They couldn't wait.

So extraordinarily selfish.

I can't help but join up the dots with the middle class overgrown toddler behaviour of those pouring milk all over the floor and throwing soup at masterpieces.

We seem to have produced, as a society, a group of really fantastically narcissistic, fantastically entitled, needy and angry people who have no social awareness or conscience or capacity to cope with the idea that the entire world does not revolve 24/7 around them.

Whatever society did to grow this group, it needs to stop doing. Now.

Hoardasurass · 17/10/2022 10:02

A little off topic here but stick with me
I had 3 lots cosmetic surgery (3×squint surgery (had to be 3 ops then is 1 now)) as a child all great for 20+ years until 1 eye started to turn the other way, it didn't really bother me as much as an adult as it did as a child until I got the first nasty comment about it and then all the trauma from the years of bullying about being "cockeyed" started to resurface my confidence and self esteem vanished. So I spoke with my optician about it who referred me to the hospital where I was told that the squint wasn't severe enough to warrant corrective surgery on the NHS but to keep an eye on it (yes he actually said that) as it could cause sight issues if it continues to turn. But that if I wanted it fixed for mental health reasons I would have to pay privately or he could refer me for counselling (which I took and has helped but I doubt it will ever "cure" me).
I was really very upset about being refused the surgery but as an adult I could understand the reasons behind the refusal and got on with life as best as I could. However the squint kept getting worse until about 7 years ago when it got to the point where it is in the surgical range and I was put on the waiting list.
After 7 years I am still on that waiting list aa my surgery has been prosponed more times than I can count. All this time both my squint and mh have deteriorated until now my squint is so bad that it is not only causes constant muscle pain, headaches/migraines but vision problems too. I am now no longer classed as a cosmetic procedure but a necessary to save the vision in my eye.
I received a phone call on Friday cancelling my surgery which was due to happen tomorrow morning for an emergency surgery (im assuming a cancer patient). The nurse was really apologetic and will fit me in ASAP. I have been through the whole range of emotions since then and am still very disappointed but as a human being I would rather wait i have about another year at the current rate of progression until I permanently loose vision in the eye than have my surgery and potentially risk someone dying of cancer.
I really do appreciate and understand the distress that having something about your appearance that is or is self perceived as "wrong" can and does cause. But why is noone telling these people go get therapy or self fund like I was ?
Why do they think that they should be prioritised over cancer patients?
Why is there emotional distress over having breasts more valid than my trauma from bullying over a viable squint that grown adults still think that its acceptable and appropriate to comment on/about and make "jokes" at my expense?

Sorry if I'm ranting but I'm so fucking angry with the entitlement of these narcissistic that's who think that them not being disappointed and feeling let down again is more important than a human life

Helleofabore · 17/10/2022 10:24

Hoardasurass

Flowers
Igmum · 17/10/2022 10:43

That is absolutely awful and so sorry for you Hoardasaurus Flowers. It is also rampant misogyny. No one is saying don't talk about prostate cancer - which already gets more funds and more attention. It's breast cancer they are marginalising.

Amarette · 17/10/2022 11:45

At a more general level, I also find it horrific that in order to accommodate a teenager's angst over puberty and having breasts, the solution is to just cut them off. And try to outlaw counselling beforehand.

MarmaladeFatkins · 17/10/2022 15:29

I have similar experience @Hoardasurass surgery for spinal deformity....lived with it progressively getting worse for 30 years, enduring people's revulsion and finally had 12 hour surgery to correct because it could have caused paralysis. surgery only cancelled once, the night before. I totally GET the psychological impact of having a 'wrong' body and the emotions of having surgery postponed. I wouldn't in a million billion years think that I should have had priority over cancer surgeries

ReunitedThorns · 17/10/2022 16:25

But males can get breast cancer though. It is a condition that can affect all human beings (but vast majority will be women).

TRAs should at least understand science before kicking off about it (but when have they ever done that?).

Fluffymule · 17/10/2022 16:46

I’ve posted previously on this topic, being in survivorship after treatment for aggressive stage 3 Triple Negative breast cancer. This included surgery and reconstruction of both breasts after gruelling chemotherapy (and then followed by radiotherapy)

I struggle with ‘proud images’ of otherwise healthy young women with their prominent surgery scarring from double mastectomies. I recognise that these elective surgeries are their decisions and clearly none of my business, and in reality my horror actually sits with the surgeons that remove the healthy breast tissue of these women and girls.

I just find it hard to find anything to celebrate in these females undergoing such radical medical procedures that I had to endure as a consequence of a life threatening illness - one which still may return to see me off for good.

I know that my relationship with my body and breasts has changed enormously since my surgeries, it’s been a real mental struggle at times. Particularly as the chemo also threw me into early menopause and destroyed my fertility - something that will also be shared with some of these young females pursuing further transitional drugs, hormones and even hysterectomies.

I could weep for all that they do not know, or understand, they have lost, and by their own ‘choice’.

turbonerd · 17/10/2022 17:42

💐 & 💐 for Hadrosaurass and Fluffymule,

it is strange how these kind of operations are at once talked about so flippantly and at the same time a mutilation of their bodies that is deemed of vital importance.

It is sad that teenage angst is given this much weight when it comes to irreversible serious surgery.

I had anorexia when just starting out as a teenager. I didn’t realise it was classed as a body dysmorphia until only recently (I am mid forties). And though they try to muddy the waters it is a kind of dysphoria as far as I can gather.
I just ploughed through years of it -
I was 23 kgs at my thinnest point. Am of small stature but was rather skeletal looking at the photos.

Thankfully no-one affirmed this or offered some liposuction to make sure I forever had a thigh gap and an overarm of 5 cm in diameter.

It takes years and years to Get over such a mindset. One should certainly not be encouraged to be multilated in the middle of it!

I ate my first slice of salami in over 30 years only last week. It dawned on me that I had never allowed myself to eat it just like that in all those years because of the visible fat specks!

I have been of normal BMI for many years, and eaten tons of unhealthy food. But that one item was stuck in my Brain. Just a thought on how hard such weird ideas can be to shake, and how long it can take to be «well» again.

LaughingPriest · 17/10/2022 18:04

Breast cancer is only "gendered" if you a) forget that it occurs in male and female people and b) think the sex of one's body relates to what gender you are, which is apparently a transphobic belief.

Rightsraptor · 17/10/2022 18:42

Such narcissism on display by those thinking they are more important than breast cancer cases. But who is surprised by it? Not me.

And that comment about breasts growing 'without her consent'! I've read this line before but that was about not consenting to puberty, or the particular type they went through (i.e. the 'wrong' one). WTF is that about? I don't 'consent' to breathing either but it damn well keeps on happening.

FictionalCharacter · 17/10/2022 18:46

This was all over social media in 2020 when lockdown and illness affected NHS surgery lists very badly. It was horrifying to see activists fall over themselves to declare how unfair it was that mastectomies for cancer patients were being prioritised over "life saving top surgery". Life saving. That was one of several things that completely killed any sympathy I might have had for the "be kind" movement.

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