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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jacob Breslow - Schools OUT UK

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Clymene · 11/10/2022 10:16

Thanks to Helen Joyce for this.

Jacob Breslow, the paedophile adjacent Mermaids trustee, also contributed to the School Out trans toolkit for children.

Schools Out is an education charity.

Schools OUT takes part in research, debate and curriculum development on LGBT people and issues. We deal with the Department for Education, OFSTED, The Equality and Human Rights Commission, local authorities and academies; teaching and other trade unions and any other stakeholders in the education process when and where relevant.
They partner with a teacher training organisation in Essex https://etpscitt.co.uk/

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FemaleAndLearning · 11/10/2022 10:27

Oh god this just gets worse and worse.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/10/2022 10:29

Person with an unhealthy interest in children seeks out positions of influence over children

really, who could have seen that coming?

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 10:31

It's all pretty effed up.

They clearly all are rather a tight network

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IcakethereforeIam · 11/10/2022 10:33

And they call MN an echo chamber!

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 10:34

Again revisiting this article by Dr Em from 2019 on how frequently abusers target charities for children.

uncommongroundmedia.com/charities-institutional-climates-conducive-to-child-sexual-abuse/

TheirEminence · 11/10/2022 10:39

Schools Out also has links to Educate & Celebrate (LGBT training provider for schools, portrayed in a Transgender Trend article) and UCU (lecturer’s union).

Seth Atkin is UCU’s current LGBT equality support officer and worked for Schools Out.

lgbtplushistorymonth.co.uk/about/meet-the-team/

Atkin also stood for the Green Party in Birmingham. (2015 City Council election, Perry Barr, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Birmingham_City_Council_election )

Datun · 11/10/2022 10:40

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 10:31

It's all pretty effed up.

They clearly all are rather a tight network

Which one of those, Terry or Jay claimed that transition cures autism?

Also it was Jay Stewart who was responsible for that ridiculous anti science exhibition at the science museum about pink brains and blue brains.

The museum eventually took it down. But it's like knowing there are a thousand needles hidden in a haystack, and just taking one out.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/10/2022 10:42

People who want to talk to children about sex need their motives examining very carefully

it’s part of the reason outsourcing RSE is such a fucking disaster

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 10:44

Can't remember datun but it was quite the event.

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WarriorN · 11/10/2022 10:45

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Datun · 11/10/2022 10:53

It can't be this difficult, surely.

Why can't the government come up with one syllabus for these issues. Age-appropriate and gets taught across the board.

With input from educators, child development psychologists and safeguarding experts.

You know, people who are actually trained in how to deliver information to children.

Not people who think we have a blue brain and a pink brain, pretending you're the opposite sex cures autism, or have no clue about safeguarding and hire paedophile apologists, or associate with those
who want to legalise extreme pornography.

Allowing people, willy nilly, to access children to talk about sex is just the stupidest thing ever. What do they think???

It isn't hard to fix, either.

The government have allowed adults to play sex games with children using a dice that generates different sex positions, ffs.

Just stop it. Get a syllabus that works, and get it taught.

And I tell you what, if they have to teach about what transgenderism means, they can ask Hilary Cass to write that part of the curriculum. The only person who has actually written a proper report on the long-term implications.

This whole thing is a shit show of mammoth proportions, and the government needs to fucking grow a spine.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/10/2022 10:56

I'm fed up wondering whether charities wanting to access children in schools (Stonewall, GIRES, Gendered Intelligence, Global Butterflies, the Proud Trust and countless others) have been infiltrated by predators. They all need to institute rigorous safeguarding checks, including a review of staff's online presence and be able to guarantee that everyone working for them has no untoward interests in children. They also need to review all their published materials, especially for children and schools and remove all the safeguarding breaching "advice". And then they need to stand up to those doing such harm in public and say "NO - you do not represent us". Their complete silence in the face of all this suggests they're complicit.

Igmum · 11/10/2022 11:00

Excellent suggestion Datun. The sad thing is that most schools are so under resourced these are seen as a blessing. We need more light on the activities of Breslow and co. to shock people out of using them (come on Guardian and BBC I'm looking at you).

Datun · 11/10/2022 11:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/10/2022 10:56

I'm fed up wondering whether charities wanting to access children in schools (Stonewall, GIRES, Gendered Intelligence, Global Butterflies, the Proud Trust and countless others) have been infiltrated by predators. They all need to institute rigorous safeguarding checks, including a review of staff's online presence and be able to guarantee that everyone working for them has no untoward interests in children. They also need to review all their published materials, especially for children and schools and remove all the safeguarding breaching "advice". And then they need to stand up to those doing such harm in public and say "NO - you do not represent us". Their complete silence in the face of all this suggests they're complicit.

I agree.

The whole 'a few bad apples' approach isn't washing with me.

You can scapegoat half a dozen people, your entire board of trustees, all your bloody communications officers, and no one will be any the wiser as to whether or not you're still rotten to the core.

Who can spend their entire career or lives playing whack a mole in this way?

The only way for the government to control what is being taught to children is to write it themselves. And to demand that it is adhered to.

Datun · 11/10/2022 11:02

Igmum · 11/10/2022 11:00

Excellent suggestion Datun. The sad thing is that most schools are so under resourced these are seen as a blessing. We need more light on the activities of Breslow and co. to shock people out of using them (come on Guardian and BBC I'm looking at you).

But they still have to pay for these outside companies, don't they?

If they don't have the staff power to deliver the lessons themselves, then outside companies could do it, as long as they only taught the one syllabus, rubber stamped by the government.

YouSirNeighMmmm · 11/10/2022 11:07

Datun · 11/10/2022 11:02

But they still have to pay for these outside companies, don't they?

If they don't have the staff power to deliver the lessons themselves, then outside companies could do it, as long as they only taught the one syllabus, rubber stamped by the government.

Surely any competent teacher should be able to deliver a simple, fact based, age appropriate syllabus explaining the biology of sex, different sexualities and discuss issues surrounding relationships and consent?

One might even argue that they might be better placed than a specialist if they know the kids.

Clymene · 11/10/2022 11:12

I think all of the alphabet phse organisations need shutting down. They are all steeped in queer theory.

And we know that queer theory is ultimately about dismantling safeguarding and erasing the concept of the child.

I agree with Datun that we need a DfE stanrdardised PHSE programme that schools can deliver. Any competent teacher can do it. Or perhaps the DSL could take on the role?

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WarriorN · 11/10/2022 11:15

Why can't the government come up with one syllabus for these issues. Age-appropriate and gets taught across the board.

It wasn't mandatory, but under labour we had QCA documents, certainly for primary, which were step by step differentiated lessons on what to actually cover to meet the curriculum objectives.

Other schemes you could purchase were available, iirc particularly for music, I remember that a common pshce scheme was SEAL (social and emotional learning) and may have been supplementary. (Pshce was always my PPA cover and I rarely taught it!)

The tories scrapped everything and obviously created a landscape where private educational companies/ charities and indeed museums (who need to prove their educational value to maintain gov funding) were both needed and thrived as the new curriculum only gave the bare curriculum.

It's a problem in all the subjects, schools have been encouraged to create curriculums tailored to their community. In some respects this can be great, in others such as pshe, it's a disaster.

Young Teachers are writing the lessons. They swap ideas on Facebook. They Google and pinch random ideas. Fine if it's art or Dt. Not so great for RSE / pshe.

Oh and the push to be diverse in all subjects means it will creep into literacy lessons via the books you read to the class.

It's been a bloody free for all.

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 11:18

Surely any competent teacher should be able to deliver a simple, fact based, age appropriate syllabus explaining the biology of sex, different sexualities and discuss issues surrounding relationships and consent?

One might even argue that they might be better placed than a specialist if they know the kids.

Unless fresh out of university that's directly taught them tra ideology.

"As part of the Primary Education with QTS course, I teach a third-year English module in which students think carefully about how transgender children are represented in children’s literature."

www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/blogs/carnegie-education/2022/05/transgender-representation-in-childrens-literature/

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 11:21

There needs to be massive joined up thinking on this.

Universities, charities, schools, safeguarding, Ofsted, government clarity. All of it.

Datun · 11/10/2022 11:28

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 11:21

There needs to be massive joined up thinking on this.

Universities, charities, schools, safeguarding, Ofsted, government clarity. All of it.

Yes.

All of it.

At least people seem to be understanding that if you create loopholes, predators will flock to them.

That needs to become a mantra woven into all the discourse over this. 'Loophole creation'.

Is there any possibility of a loophole being created? Yes? Right, then you can't do it. Think again

WarriorN · 11/10/2022 11:31

This guidance fudge.

How legally binding is it?

How will that go down to schools on the chalk face?

As far as I can tell, outside providers are willfully ignoring it.

Only if Ofsted start failing schools for not following it will any listen I fear.

Trans guidance for schools - "that British fudge that so often works" www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4651945-trans-guidance-for-schools-that-british-fudge-that-so-often-works

Walkerbean16 · 11/10/2022 14:46

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/concerns-over-doctor-appointed-scottish-26439239

Have any of you seen this article today? It's not a new post (there was a thread on him in 2018) but its gained media attention due to the news about Jacob Breslow. Should probably have done a new thread but I'm not really knowledgeable about it all.