Teachers who discuss sex-based women’s rights with transgender colleagues would be considered “transphobic” under a policy proposed by members of Britain’s largest teaching union.

[ChristinaXYZ]

Over-reach by a trades union again - why can none of them get round to defending women?

And if you are still a teacher who is member of the NEU then a reminder that Affinity is a trades union that does not do politics and does cover teachers.

"Teachers who discuss sex-based women’s rights with transgender colleagues would be considered “transphobic” under a policy proposed by members of Britain’s largest teaching union.

The National Education Union’s trans and non-binary network has proposed that anyone who expects trans people “to participate in discussion or debate about their rights and/or identities” is transphobic.

The draft proposal of a transphobia definition, seen by The Telegraph, also cited “propagating ideas, concepts and misinformation harmful to trans people and which erase and ignore trans history, such as trans as an ideology or contagion”, as an example of transphobic behaviour.

The policy neither outlined what it meant by “trans history”, nor what “ideas, concepts and misinformation” would be considered harmful to trans people.
It further defined transphobia as a “rejection of trans identity and a refusal to acknowledge that those identities are real or valid” or the “incorrect use of pronouns”.

A whistleblower close to the teaching union told The Telegraph: “I am extremely worried by this. I’m from a Left-wing background and I hate this nonsense.
“We need free speech. Women need safe spaces. If this definition is accepted, anyone who says ‘You can’t logically self-identify as the opposite sex’, you’ll be a transphobe.”

The source added: “I think it will mean that teachers will be too scared to speak up in schools and they will go along with the NEU policy.”"

Read the full article www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/10/teachers-who-discuss-womens-rights-trans-colleagues-could-transphobic/

That certainly has a chilling effect.

Why would a teacher need to discuss this in the workplace? It's a highly sensitive issue that crosses personal/professional boundaries and is best not discussed in the same way as all politics should be out of the staff room to ensure teachers are unbiased and let children form their own opinions (Genuine question)

Maybe since the Department of Education said you can't tell pupils they are born in the wrong body. This must be an attempt to get round that?

Why would a teacher need to discuss this in the workplace?
Biology teachers might.

Why would a teacher need to discuss this in the workplace?

Are you honestly having trouble thinking of how the topic might be relevant to a teacher's job? They might, for example, want to talk about how the girls in their school are uncomfortable getting changed with a penis haver in the room.

Why do they think they’re above the law?

Why would a teacher need to discuss this in the workplace?

Why on earth would anyone think that the discussion of women's rights has no place in schools?

Does it matter if you are a transphobe?

I don't particularly care about being a transphobe as it's a ridiculous word and talking about SSE in the equality act can't be considered illegal, the idea is farcical, so who cares if a stupid union has a clown world policy like this?

Well they can get stuffed.

That makes it very, very clear.

Trans rights are in direct competition with women's rights.

We are going to have to pick a side.

Would you tell a black or gay teacher they couldn't talk about rights, policies or issues that pertain to them?

Yes, exactly this, and thank you for saying so Fenlandia.

Would black people or gay people be told, and accept being told, that they cannot talk about rights, policies or issues pertaining to them?

I think the answer to that is a definite No.

But women's rights? Up for grabs by any man at the moment, it seems.

I don't get it as I've had to " participate in discussion or debate about their rights and/or identities” as a biological hetro woman for most of my life. I'm not feminine, very tall, not Petite and not into fashion.
I'd be delighted if I could get this kind of protection in so many spheres.

If only we had a government in power who could protect female single sex spaces with their enormous majority.

It is so painful, that we have to put up with this bloody government; and yet we don't have any effective political party to vote for and relieve us of this.

It will be 2 years before you can vote for anyone else.

Two more years of Tory government actively destroying our rights. And passively destroying our rights by not fixing the damage caused by their policy of Self ID and not bothering their arses enforcing laws against VAWG.

Why would a teacher need to discuss this in the workplace?

How about if I refuse to take a group on an overnight school trip where there would be mixed sex sleeping arrangements without parents being informed? What if a female student tells me she is uncomfortable changing in front of someone with a male body? What if I’m instructed to use preferred pronouns and participate in social transitioning of a child without medical or parental knowledge by a leadership team who haven’t read the interim Cass report? There are, unfortunately, many circumstances where it may be necessary to discuss this at work. And, at my workplace, we discuss many complex and potentially offensive subjects as necessary to safeguard our students. I don’t see why this one should be automatically off limits.

Fortunately, I’m not in the NEU. My current union doesn’t come out with such nonsense - they are focussed on protecting workers’ employment rights. Thank goodness. If they change, I’ll be moving to having professional insurance instead of a union.

So is the Labour party, and are any unions, doing anything to protect the sex-based rights of women and girls?

And if so, could you please tell me what they are doing, and provide me with credible, verifiable links, that are safe-for-work? Thanks in advance!

Presumably the NEU would deem any discussion of these people and their organisation transphobic? Great way to remove safeguarding from children:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca30ddfe-48e1-11ed-8176-c5c5e560820a?shareToken=bb95ff5e988ec157b06e22f7455eb977

@SimpleName83 everyone in the UK is subject to the balls ups made by successive Tory government's over the past 12 years.

One of their most infamous fuck ups wrt women's rights has been to write trans inclusion and genderwoo into government policies since PM Theresa May introduced the Tory Policy of Self ID in 2017. Unfortunately, because they are the government, no other party or institution, can do anything. Except follow government policy.

Unless you're suggesting a coup? Or a revolution?🤔

TooBigForMyBoots:

And what are Labour going to do about people like those mentioned in the Times link given above above by MrsOvertonsWindow?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca30ddfe-48e1-11ed-8176-c5c5e560820a?shareToken=bb95ff5e988ec157b06e22f7455eb977

I want precise details from Labour on the rights of women and children, not "after the revolution, love, now make me a sandwich and a cup of tea."

Labour are not going to do anything about it. Labour cannot do anything about it at this time.

The Tory Party could do something about it, given their massive parliamentary majority. But they can't be bothered, even though it's their fucking mess, and are hoping that a typically British fudge is the solution.

It's fucking disgusting. Mermaids have obviously appointed a proven nonce, and given free rein to a sexual exhibitionist man. To be in charge of troubled children.
This is abhorrent.

The Labour party could very well stand up and speak out loudly and clearly against the sexual exploitation and mutlilation of children; but for its own reasons, it chooses not to do so. Why is that?