Guardian readers still being kept in ignorance.

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Their last story on Mermaids was 30th September, a report on the investigation done by a newspaper that still actually bothers to do some digging, The Telegraph. The Observer published a piece by Sonia Sodha on the 2nd but since then it's been crickets, on both Mermaids and the LSE. Many of my friends only get their 'news' from The Guardian or BBC radio. Many are parents. They don't use social media, where these issues have been trending all week, they don't read the Times, Telegraph or Mail. It is absolutely exasperating and now downright sinister how ill-informed and ignorant The Guardian is deliberately keeping its readers on a huge issue that can and in many cases will detrimentally impact a generation of children for life. It is putting its own internal, binary politics, where it deludedly thinks it's on the right side of history no matter how much evidence piles up to the contrary, above honest, factual reporting, and not for the first time. 'Facts are sacred' my arse.

Agreed. You'd have thought that someone with such extreme paedophilic views on the board of a children's charity would be of concern to an ethical campaigning newspaper? Oh wait..... 🤔

I basically saw someone say as much (unironically) on another thread I.e. 'I'm a left wing, Guardian reading feminist and I've never heard about....'.

I used to be an avid Guardian reader. Wouldn't trust them now to report the opening of a village fete.

What else do you expect from an outfit that still employs talcum? When this cluster fuck is totally exposed (which I think is happening right now) they are going to look very stupid, at best.

I'm wondering if the tide will have to turn in the US more first. I think they rely very much on US funding readership these days?

I think its all a perfect example of how journalism seems to no longer be about reporting the news as it happens. But about appearances. Appeasing people. Treating the public like some kind of thought control experiment.

You should be able to rely on any paper to report the news factually. Different styles of writing is one thing. Withholding information is another entirely.

If you have staff who cannot cope with reality of situations then those staff need to be gone. Because truth and facts and keeping the public informed should be the back bone of any newspaper. Whether that news upsets people or not. Thats for the public to manage their reactions. Not be treated as incapable by having the info withheld.

They can't report it, or they would have to admit that they have been partial - or even influenced in a malign way - on this topic.

So the just keep schtum and hope it all goes away.

One day it will all come out.

We know the Guardian is a liberal left-wing paper that promotes liberal views and that the BBC appears to be run by Guardian readers.

Yes, and I'm absolutely furious that my representative in the Senned (the Welsh government) says that she won't read articles from the Times and Telegraph because they're behind paywalls, so relies on the Guardian, which she thinks is a. quality newspaper. She won't get my vote at the next election. This is how democracy is undermined.

It should be possible to be both Liberal and report facts. In fact being opposed to free speech and opinions whether positive or negative seems to me to be the opposite of Liberal.

If your Definition of Liberal means withholding information then its time to re evaluate

It’s one thing to present facts and then have parallel opinion and commentary pieces, which interpret the facts in a particular way.

It’s quite another to deliberately withhold facts that don’t fit your agenda, in an attempt to keep your readership in the dark when you’re a newspaper and people are relying on your publication to be informed.

Democracy itself relies on transparency and voters being aware of events.

Scary times in our ‘democracy’.

Man went to a conference 11 years ago on paedophiles, has not been accused of anything. Should have told MM about it before being appointed in his role (which was not 'on the ground'). Left when it came to light.

Normal people aren't invested as you guys are, we have lives to live whilst there's a cost of living crisis going on and a war in Europe that could easily escalate into something even more terrible. It's why trans issues come next to bottom in importance whenever these things are polled.

Oh dear. Imagine having to minimise Jacob Breslow's horrendous record to hold the line for gender identity ideology.

Man also wrote a appear comparing cumming on a child to cumming on a shoe. Sees no problem with children having sex with adults. Is the trustee of a childrens charity. That is what you are defending. You are saying that’s not important, fine. I’m sure you’d be quite happy leaving your children alone with him and his pals. So why bother to comment? If it’s not important, why are you commenting?

Oh dear. Imagine being unable to think about more than one or two issues again time.
Just think how much would be ignored if everyone was like this.

*at one time

Wonder if this Is Jacobs mum trying to deflect away from her sons actions? I mean, couldn’t shout squirrel louder if they tried

Hehe. The guardian readers in my family have been exposured to many alternative sources of reporting of late.

Three years ago: your views are bigoted because the guardian tells us so

Today (and I quote): I'm just so ashamed of the Guardian.

In the fullness of time the extent to which the guardian have encouraged a movement which harms children, and then minimised and concealed the unfolding of a medical and safeguarding scandal will be understood.

Am I the only one who will read any paper?

I have no loyalty or interest in reading one paper with one agenda. Ill read anything and everything. Times, daily mail, telegraph, even PN. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle and facts are withheld to a degree in any papers at least some of the time. You have to read a wide range ro get the full story.

Besides what ever happened to " know your enemy"

I read a wide range of newspapers and listen to a wide range of media for that reason @Whatwouldscullydo I think if you confine yourself to an echo chamber you can’t make informed opinions.

Be nice if anyone gave as much of a shit about women in Iran being murdered for showing their hair, really. Waiting for someone to suggest they can identify as men to avoid this...funny how that doesn't work for women outside this deranged echo chamber.

Good God. That's not something anyone should defend.

This has 'just tripped and fell into a vagina' vibes.

I don't know about you but it is possible to be angry about more than one thing.

And yet people are. The minimising and the well…. He resigned so it doesn’t matter and the …. Oooh poor mermaids, how could they have known?
it fucks me right off, it was mermaids job to know. I’ve been a charity trustee, it is literally a position of trust. If you look at the stuff people have found out over the last few days just by using Google, then it makes what mermaids have done even more shocking.

Again. It’s the whole look at that squirrel not over here trick again. Why do people not want this stuff known and discussed? Who has a vested interest in shutting this down? It’s very telling which posters are trying to get discussion to stop….