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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another transgender scandal in Loudoun County, sex crimes against trans student

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Snoodsy · 07/10/2022 11:45

Transgender school policies are a safeguarding nightmare. Adults breaking down children’s boundaries until they don’t exist. (There is much more at link below.) I stumbled across this article, of course it’s not in any mainstream US media.

“A Virginia school counselor pleaded guilty last month to having a three years-long sexual relationship (raped) with a transgender student.

Ann Marie Barrett was a (43 year old, married, mother of three) guidance counselor, and was assigned to the victim. “[The biological female began] the physical and hormonal transition process while he attended Freedom High School.”

The role of school counselors in the lives of gender-confused students has been in the spotlight in recent times. Earlier this week, The Daily Wire reported that a top National Association of School Psychologists (NASP) official, who also works in Northern Virginia, participated in a transgender group that said it would send cash and transportation to students who want to leave home.

Cannava said “I recognize that parental consent is a big deal, but when I’m doing anything LGBT, I don’t worry about that. … Let’s be honest, it’s an electronic permission slip. You type in a parent’s name and I’m like ‘oh that parent signed consent.’ There’s no actual signature.”

You have to sometimes break rules to do good for kids,” she said.

Cannava said “ I had a record day where five kids came out to me. I said ‘this is amazing’ … Most of the time [The students will say] I think I’m trans,’ which really means ‘I am trans.’”

www.dailywire.com/news/school-counselor-admits-to-sex-with-trans-student-in-virginia-district-rocked-by-bathroom-rape

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LavenderfortheBees · 07/10/2022 14:16

For fucks sake.

These children are no less deserving of safeguarding than any other child. They will often have additional vulnerabilities that mean adults should be even more vigilant. Instead, they are being exposed to paedophilia, alienated from their caregivers and expected to keep secrets.

Why would a child identifying as LGBT mean they should be treated with less care (but greater affirmation and freedom) than other children?

It reminds me of the 90s when working class, badly behaved kids were called 'street wise' by authorities and so were considered less at risk than coddled, middle class kids. Actually the inverse was true. Being out all the time and having less secure home lives made those children far more at risk of abuse and exploitation but no one cared.

TheClogLady · 07/10/2022 14:23

This is the Mermaids effect.

teaching kids that it’s ok to keep secrets from their parents and guardians opens up a gateway that makes the child vulnerable to abusive adults.

it’s the ‘Glitter Family’ phenomenon.

I’m throughly fucking sick of if.

And I’m especially annoyed that so many women, either as cheerleaders to the ideology or as charity CEOs or as school counsellors, or doctors like Webberly, or as transman activists like Whittle and Morton, are part of it.

I don’t care if that makes me sexist, I really did expect better of my fellow women.

ArabellaScott · 07/10/2022 14:25

teaching kids that it’s ok to keep secrets from their parents and guardians opens up a gateway that makes the child vulnerable to abusive adults.

Yep.

TheClogLady · 07/10/2022 14:28

It reminds me of the 90s when working class, badly behaved kids were called 'street wise' by authorities and so were considered less at risk than coddled, middle class kids.

See the grooming gang scandals, where police initially waved reports of child rape away because the girls were from working class backgrounds and were thus stereotyped as promiscuous) and even after the cops finally began to take it seriously, were still unwilling to do anything due to the the ethnicity/religious affiliations of the perps.

I despair that society will ever learn!

Whatwouldscullydo · 07/10/2022 14:38

Isn't this what we have said all along. Thay all children should have the same level of safeguarding applied. Why are lgbt children exempt from protections.

Under what other circumstances would a child be responsible for their own safe guarding. What other circumstances would allow such secrecy and parental exclusion.

What did people pushing this idea of special children who can do what they want behind parents backs with adults given a free pass if glitter amd rainbows are involved, would lead to?

That poor child 🤬

TheClogLady · 07/10/2022 14:45

Same with medical interventions - the same standards should apply to research into and treatment of Gender Dysphoria as those that apply to other treatments/medications.

the reason trans ideologues won’t agree to abide by the same standards as everyone else is because they know it won’t survive scrutiny.

And it results in children, often already distressed and vulnerable children, being used (to further a political cause) and abused (because they’ve not been protected in the way that other kids are).

JellySaurus · 07/10/2022 16:00

I recognize that parental consent is a big deal, but when I’m doing anything LGBT, I don’t worry about that.

Why don't you believe that these children deserve the same level of safeguarding as any other children?

PaterPower · 07/10/2022 16:12

“My client has accepted responsibility for this consensual relationship,” Barrett’s attorney, William “Ben” Mann, told The Daily Wire.

umm nope. The victim was in her sophomore year, when it started, making her 15-16. Even if she was 16 (and if she was in the UK), the relationship would still be classed as non-consensual purely due to the pupil-teacher grooming aspect of it.

It will be interesting to see whether Barrett gets an appropriate amount of jail time for this “relationship” or whether the trans aspect will influence the sentencing.

Whatwouldscullydo · 07/10/2022 16:17

PaterPower · 07/10/2022 16:12

“My client has accepted responsibility for this consensual relationship,” Barrett’s attorney, William “Ben” Mann, told The Daily Wire.

umm nope. The victim was in her sophomore year, when it started, making her 15-16. Even if she was 16 (and if she was in the UK), the relationship would still be classed as non-consensual purely due to the pupil-teacher grooming aspect of it.

It will be interesting to see whether Barrett gets an appropriate amount of jail time for this “relationship” or whether the trans aspect will influence the sentencing.

Well thats something no one has addressed isnt it.

If you can consent to body altering , fertility ending, bone density affecting, sexual function removing medication, how can you not also consent to sex even with a teacher.

Another unfortunate side effect of the ideology. There can be no consequences because you cant have one thing but not the other.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/10/2022 16:17

Sharing the despair. And pointing out that in UK schools significant numbers of them have safeguarding free LGBT / Stonewall groups where older children and staff are free to discuss issues relating to sexuality, sex and relationships with younger children. Zero structure, curriculum or boundaries.

It won't be long before the casualties of these start being reported.

anderosonnmj · 07/10/2022 16:40

Snoodsy · 07/10/2022 11:45

Transgender school policies are a safeguarding nightmare. Adults breaking down children’s boundaries until they don’t exist. (There is much more at link below.) I stumbled across this article, of course it’s not in any mainstream US media.

“A Virginia school counselor pleaded guilty last month to having a three years-long sexual relationship (raped) with a transgender student.

Ann Marie Barrett was a (43 year old, married, mother of three) guidance counselor, and was assigned to the victim. “[The biological female began] the physical and hormonal transition process while he attended Freedom High School.”

The role of school counselors in the lives of gender-confused students has been in the spotlight in recent times. Earlier this week, The Daily Wire reported that a top National Association of School Psychologists (NASP) official, who also works in Northern Virginia, participated in a transgender group that said it would send cash and transportation to students who want to leave home.

Cannava said “I recognize that parental consent is a big deal, but when I’m doing anything LGBT, I don’t worry about that. … Let’s be honest, it’s an electronic permission slip. You type in a parent’s name and I’m like ‘oh that parent signed consent.’ There’s no actual signature.”

You have to sometimes break rules to do good for kids,” she said.

Cannava said “ I had a record day where five kids came out to me. I said ‘this is amazing’ … Most of the time [The students will say] I think I’m trans,’ which really means ‘I am trans.’”

www.dailywire.com/news/school-counselor-admits-to-sex-with-trans-student-in-virginia-district-rocked-by-bathroom-rape

This happened in the next county to my school district. It was reported in the local section of the Washington Post (mainstream media) back in November 2021 under Public Safety. It was also reported by many other news stations (but you might have missed it if you were in the UK).

Unfortunately, there are many cases in this area of child abusers working in schools. There was a particularly awful case when my son was in elementary school of an elementary school teacher in another school who was taking kids to the school basement and abusing them. Some of the kids mentioned this to the teachers, but nothing was done for ages.

She's not due to be sentenced until December, so we'll have to wait and see what happens.

PermanentTemporary · 07/10/2022 18:46

I think it's perfectly possible for safeguarding to be applied to a LGBT+ club just as it is to PSHE classes. I'd like to know how it's done well. Because I do think a club focused on sexuality across adolescence presents obvious potential risks, which some teachers etc know how to mitigate.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/10/2022 19:08

Not sure I agree PermanentTemporary. There's a reason Mr Wilkins (technology teacher) is not allowed to run a club for 14 year old girls and boys to discuss his take on sex, sexual identity and relationships.
Schools have a learning focus. PSHE is a part of the curriculum with age appropriate guidelines, training and part of the line management accountability structure in schools (including monitoring by Ofsted).
Stonewall groups / LGBT clubs are where children gather out of curriculum time with random adults and other students to discuss sexuality, sex and relationships are a seedbed for grooming and age inappropriate discussions, no matter how enthusiastic or well meaning the adults.
Just look at what a failure to use core safeguarding principles and practices has exposed at Mermaids this week.

NumberTheory · 08/10/2022 01:13

This is horrendous, but tbh, safeguarding kids in the US is a joke. Teachers and schools simply aren’t held to account except when things go wrong. And then it’s always looked at as failings of individuals. Whether it’s lgbt students or sexual harassment of girls, bullying, or the physical safety of children in boot camp style schools, there is no culture of seeing children as vulnerable and trying to put systems in place to minimise harm. Unions’ and parents’ rights are far more important than children’s and with a lot of previously built infrastructure crumbling, there is little stomach for committing taxes to make things better.

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