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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Suzanne Moore Mermaids article

53 replies

Feministwoman · 06/10/2022 23:41

Spot on.

suzannemoore.substack.com/p/mermaids-i-dont-feel-vindicated

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Toseland · 06/10/2022 23:47

Just wow

Sparklybutold · 06/10/2022 23:57

The sponsor list!?!

chilling19 · 07/10/2022 00:02

👏👏👏

Ramblingnamechanger · 07/10/2022 00:10

Pity the article is not in the Guardian. Personally not one person I know (and fallen out with over this) has acknowledged in any way that they were naive , or ignorant as the sheer awfulness of the gender narrative unfolded. As yet another man kills large numbers of women and children today, male violence is exactly why we need separate female only places. Interested that Suzanne had experience of the grooming of girls way back in the 80s. Respect.

TheBiologyStupid · 07/10/2022 00:26

A great article by Suzanne - and shame on The Guardian for losing both her powerful voice and analysis.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/10/2022 08:11

Bloody brilliant and exemplifies the rage that I feel at what's been allowed to go on.

deepwatersolo · 07/10/2022 08:18

I wasn’t aware that a fetish relating to the castration of children was even a thing. 😱

Cleanmean · 07/10/2022 08:23

Fantastic read, makes me emotional. We seem to be turning a corner but for every step forward there's two back. My work place is introducing new gender language which is infuriating!

deepwatersolo · 07/10/2022 08:24

Oh that was another article posted here I think…

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 07/10/2022 08:55

That is a very powerful article. I wonder whether the Guardian will ever wake up to their misogyny.

RoyalCorgi · 07/10/2022 09:01

Absolutely fantastic article.

Does anyone know who created the list of Mermaids supporters? Was it Suzanne herself?

Here it is, for anyone interested:

drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1eE6XWXlnZy12Njntfzj_1hc7IdTdDrgy

totalnamechanger · 07/10/2022 09:18

Brava, Suzanne.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 07/10/2022 09:29

Surprising that that the British Heart Foundation is using a pro-transition organisation like Mermaids to "deepen their knowledge of the transgender and non-binary community". Surely it's the BHF that needs to deepen Mermaids' knowledge about the heart problems caused by physical transition. Not the other way round.

KatMcBundleFace · 07/10/2022 09:30

Nailing it all there.

They can hate me all they want but I've always been convinced of the need for safeguarding.

Remember the Green Party they/them who declared "I'd rather be a pervert than a terf" ?

Well I'd rather stick up for boundaries to protect the vulnerable. This is why we fight.

JoodyBlue · 07/10/2022 09:58

Holding a mirror up to our sick society. This piece deserves to be shared far and wide.

JoodyBlue · 07/10/2022 10:01

It is not the activists that she is talking about. It is about the good people who should have stood and asked safeguarding questions. Especially those in education. I would love this piece to go viral. As she says perhaps giving the "cohort of 40/50-something guys – too cool for school – who can’t even be bothered to do the research.." pause for thought.

FrancescaContini · 07/10/2022 10:06

Ramblingnamechanger · 07/10/2022 00:10

Pity the article is not in the Guardian. Personally not one person I know (and fallen out with over this) has acknowledged in any way that they were naive , or ignorant as the sheer awfulness of the gender narrative unfolded. As yet another man kills large numbers of women and children today, male violence is exactly why we need separate female only places. Interested that Suzanne had experience of the grooming of girls way back in the 80s. Respect.

I too have strained relationships with a few people as a result of very different stances on the issue and have also had the same experience of nobody admitting that they have since changed their perspective. People tend to double down then go very very silent on the issue.

Suzanne has always been brilliant, and yes, more fool the Guarniad for treating her so badly and disrespecting her many many years of insightful journalism.

FrancescaContini · 07/10/2022 10:08

As for the upthread “I’d rather be a pervert than a T*” - did someone in the Green Party really say this? If so 🤮

WolverineBlueyy · 07/10/2022 10:11

A brilliant read from Suzanne, thank you.

Unformidable · 07/10/2022 10:16

Wow! I can feel the emotion of every word. Suzanne is absolutely brilliant.

briarhill · 07/10/2022 10:17

A powerful read. Brava Suzanne!

DialSquare · 07/10/2022 10:18

Brilliant. I love this part.

"but I self-identify as a woman who won’t go down quietly. There are more of us than you think.’"

More and more are joining on a daily basis.

Mochudubh · 07/10/2022 10:23

I was struck by this comment by Suzanne's erstwhile colleague Lucy Mangan in her review of A Friend of the Family in today's Guardian.

Above all, however, it is a testimony to the relentless dedication of predators to achieve their own ends. How hard they work, how far they will go, how unswervingly they will pursue their agenda, smiling all the while.

Quite

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/07/a-friend-of-the-family-review-the-most-jawdroppingly-incredible-true-crime-story-there-is

ImAvingOops · 07/10/2022 10:41

Celebrities have abused their fame and failed to do their due diligence, just do they can raise their own profile and appear 'relevant'.
And schools/medical professionals/social services/businesses have utterly failed to protect women and children just so they can tick the relevant boxes on their paperwork and cushion themselves from potential criticism - not a thought or care for the vulnerable people they threw under the bus!

SapphosRock · 07/10/2022 15:17

Great article.

Has Emma Watson actually apologised though? I thought she was still full TRA?