Has anyone else googled "Velma"

[MrsMorton]

She will be an actual lesbian, not gay, not queer. Lesbian. It even includes the actual lesbian flag. Alongside the corrupted rainbow but, small wins all the same.

It really was!

In the Scooby Doo live action film, number 2 I think, she had a thing with Oz from Buffy. Poor Oz, every girl he dates ends up a lesbian!

Yes it just fits the stereotypes.

She has short hair, and doesnt dress very feminine so it means she must be a lesbian. Now if they'd made Daphne a lesbian that would have been more progressive.

So is Scooby a furry then? Missed a massive storyline opportunity there.

Also in the series of Scooby Doo I've watched she fancied Shaggy. My kids have it on.

A little concerned at people making jokes about furries / beastiality on a thread about a lesbian character. Can we please not equate same sex attraction with a fetish please?

Plus let’s not pretend that childrens cartoons aren’t full of heterosexual couples, being able to think of a handful of same sex couples hardly means they’re over saturated.

Why do kids cartoon characters need a sexuality? For the past 50 plus years we've all managed perfectly well without thus knowledge. At the age of 8-ish when Scooby doo first started, I had no idea what sexuality was and didn't need to know

That's probably Mystery Inc. She was dating Shaggy at the start but he dumped her as Scooby was jealous. She ended up in a relationship with Marcie in the second series.

Except loads of kids cartoon characters do have a sexuality and always have. No one is clutching their pearls over Mummy and Daddy Pig being married!

I think it’s fine (and quite nice). I never thought of Velma as particularly unfeminine/ tomboyish either.

I used to love scooby doo as a child. I think it set me up for a lifelong love of the thriller, mystery and horror genres. Saying that, I didn't for one minute relate it to real life so I'm not convinced one character being lesbian would have meant anything significant to me or be able to relate it to to my life. I'm maybe unusual in the sense that I played with Cindy dolls without ever thinking I was supposed to look like that. To me she was just an odd shape like an alien. The point I'm trying to make is that I dislike how adults explore their own issues through childrens toys and programmes .

It's a bit of a cheap cop out isn't it?

Yes, but what are their all-important genders?

As we’re always pointing out on this board, gender and sexuality are separate issues, so I’m not sure what your point is?

Most Disney Princess cartoons are based around a heterosexual relationship. Did you notice Mickey and Mini or Donald and Daisy? Did you question the need for their sexuality?

I’m not sure why having a gay/lesbian character sexualises a tv show or makes it political. What about all the straight couples? What is inherently sexual or political about a non straight person?

Not all shows are the same, I think is the issue.

Scooby doo was a show about teenagers solving mysteries. No romance involved at all. There are plenty of shows and stories like that. The roles the kids relate to typically have no romantic interests because the kids don't.

I would argue that Peppa Pig doesn't really either. The kids watching don't see Mummy and Daddy as a couple so much as they see them as parents, which isn't the same.

Disney Princesses do have romance, but that is probably the thing a lot of the kids relate to least. But in any case, just because they do doesn't mean other tv shows need to.

There is romance in scooby do, as others have mentioned Velma has already had a same sex relationship (another one recommending mystery incorporated!).

IIRC the gay characters in peppa pig are two mothers, so the same as mommy pig and daddy pig just two mommys.

So these changes already fit in with the context of both shows.

I’m also not sure why you are linking Velma being a lesbian with a joke about scooby and shagging being a “couple” homosexuality and beastiality are two completely different things...

Sorry that was too Mangy I forgot to quote!

Apologies for any misunderstanding - I was (obviously unsuccessfully) mocking gender ideology's attempt to conflate/confuse "same-sex" and "same-gender" attraction.

Fair enough, unfortunately it’s so ridiculous it’s hard to parody!

Postman Pat has a wife, Sara and son, Julian. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say Pat and Sara have shagged at least once. Whether or not he did it on his time off or during work hours, I've never speculated. But Pat seems to be a dedicated postman, so I don't think he did it on the job.

Special delivery!

Scooby doo was a show about teenagers solving mysteries. No romance involved at all.

We all assumed that Daphne and Fred were at it like hammers. Certainly once we were 11+

It's just that because it was a heterosexual coupling it was considered a perfectly normal assumption. So why is it so odd to assume that there might be a same sex relationship in the mix? Why is that suddenly 'sexualising' the cartoon?

My cats are Daphne and Velma (misses point)

Velma is a lovely name. Missing the point 2.0