Norwich Council says TWAW (and nonbinary people are nonbinary)

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twitter.com/CllrAlexCatt/status/1575590282229297153?cxt=HHwWgsCtvfHAz90rAAAA

'The council states clearly that trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are non-binary.'

Either this is a completely meaningless slogan or it's an ideological position that takes a questionable political stance.

They can pass a million resolutions. It still won't be true.

They are just making themselves as much of a laughing stock as those evolution deniers in Alabama or wherever it was.

This man has form. Will see if I can find his previous antics.

I think any legislative body that spends time and energy condemning things and stating that things which are not under their control should occur is fundamentally broken.

A council is supposed to make things happen for the benefit of those they serve. Political parties can say they believe X or Y but passing votes agreeing with themselves is masturbatory naval gazing.

At uni the SU used to pass votes condemning US foreign policy or boycotting X regime. They spent hundreds of hours debating that shit but never did anything for students.

NFN 😉

'The council states clearly that trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are non-binary and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri are small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri’

agree, donquixote. At best, it's diversionary time wasting.

And I'm pretending I didn't see that, Abhanmor.

@Abhannmor

Ha, quite

Rufus, you were not alone in picking up that echo. I even wondered if someone were deliberately taking the michael. Calling out into the wilds of Norfolk for fellow GCs to see what the response was.

Non-binary people are either male or female.

I enjoyed this response - it's bang on the money:

twitter.com/Nobody48376829/status/1575809786461192192/photo/1

Oh I went to Norwich just today. DD had to have her brace adjusted. Didn't realise that as a GC feminist, I'm no longer welcome. Strangely, nobody stopped me. Maybe the thought police were stuck in the roadworks at the bottom of Grapes Hill.

...except when their parents are booking their flu jabs and have to select which sex they are.

He's just blocking every responder on Twitter that asks a question or doesn't agree!

Love a good retort from Ines De La Cruz:

"Catt, I’ve been transsexual for 30+ years so unlike you and Norwich Council I know what I’m talking about. You and your bucolic yokels might try to legislate against biological science but no amount of hormones, surgery or wishful thinking will EVER change a man into a woman.*

Bucolic yokels 🤣

twitter.com/strobe_lightly/status/1575809094660853761?s=46&t=cSvHdlClCLyLYER8q-nbJg

"Transphobic extremists" are not welcome in Norwich?!?

Well that's 144,000 people looking for a new home then!

Norwich has form for declaring people unwelcome. To the extent of dumping them down wells. Doesn't the council realise they represent everyone, including those who have protected opinions they don't like, and that their city must hold a large number of people they don't agree with? Who pay their council tax? Perhaps those citizens should withhold it - no taxation without representation. Worked for the US. And, eventually, for the suffragists.

Only kidding. Some fine GC people in Norwich.

Norwich Council? What does Alan Partridge have to say about this?

Tbf, hear me out, 'transphobic extremists' shouldn't be welcome. But they don't mean what any reasonable person would understand by that phrase. They mean people with reasonable beliefs and a bog standard understanding of biology. The lack of replies on twitter, and the blocking spree, demonstrate that interpretation to be the correct one.

It's a nasty statement, but it's the emptiest of gestures. As empty as the streets and the coffers of Norwich would be if they actually followed it through. As empty as the brains of the people making these statements.

But cllr. Catt gets to feel like a virtuous martyr on twitter. Is Norwich the team called the canaries? Something, something cats and canaries.

Just twigged!
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I don’t think some of his opinions about ladyboys will pass muster in the brave new Norwich world.

“non binary people are non binary”. How can you say this with a straight face and think you’ve actually strung together a meaningful sentence? Talk about a thought terminating cliché, this barely qualifies as a thought at all, more a sort of meaning free burbling.

So if trans women are women, trans men are men, and nonbinary are nonbinary, it is quite clear that the definitions of women and men have been changed from what they used to be and how they are still interpreted by the vast majority in the world.

Given that biological sex is now irrelevant, how do those of us define our 'genders' who don't possess inner gender identities at all and don't believe in the unfalsifiable concept of an abstract inner feeling of being a man or a woman or both or neither?

And given that biological sex is now irrelevant and has nothing to do with being a woman or a man or neither, how do we explain why certain people in Iran must be veiled and why they can't just identify out of that law?

I don't quite see why we would need specific words for genders if they have nothing to do with biological sex. At best they would be personality bundles (hi, I love pink and sparkles!), at worst a codification of sexist stereotypes and regressive sex roles.