Matt Walsh / Tennessee GIDS

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In case you've not seen it (and I can't see a thread) Matt Walsh did an investigation into a clinic in Tennessee.

Which was pretty shocking. The main dr went into it because gender care "would make lots of money" and then got members of the local trans community to "buddy" patients and spy on drs, so he could check for any dissent.

Low ages for mastectomies etc.

Pretty horrific.

Apparently the clinic was immediately shut down this week and an investigation launched.

Details all in thread.

twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/1572313369528635392?s=46&t=vhVBVHdxZLVXRvqf0YscHw

He released that info last night and funnily enough, today, Vanderbilt Health disabled their trans services page. Ha! Matt is prolife, so I can't get on board with everything he stands for, but he's been marvellous in the trans debate.

BREAKING: My team and I have been investigating the transgender clinic at Vanderbilt here in Nashville. Vanderbilt drugs, chemically castrates, and performs double mastectomies on minors. But it gets worse. Here is what we found. Let's start at the beginning.
Vanderbilt opened its trans clinic in 2018. During a lecture the same year, Dr. Shayne Taylor explained how she convinced Nashville to get into the gender transition game. She emphasized that it's a "big money maker," especially because the surgeries require a lot of "follow ups"

Vanderbilt was apparently concerned that not all of its staff would be on board. Dr. Ellen Clayton warned that "conscientious objections" are "problematic." Anyone who decides not to be involved in transition surgeries due to "religious beliefs" will face "consequences"

In case the objectors hadn't gotten the memo, Vanderbilt unveiled a program called "Trans Buddies." The "buddies" are trans activists from the community who attend appointments with trans patients, monitoring the doctors to guard against "unsafe" behavior such as misgendering

Vanderbilt makes their Trans Buddies available to children, too. They make lots of "services" available to children, including chemical castration. Though at some point in the last month they removed explicit admission of this fact from their site. Here's the archived screenshot

But they must have forgot to delete a video from Vanderbilt Psychiatry’s Youtube channel back in 2020 which admits explicitly that they will give and have given irreversible hormone drugs to children as young as 13.

After they have drugged and sterilized the kids, Vanderbilt — as explained in this video presentation by plastic surgeon Julien Winocour and Physician’s Assistant Shalyn Vanderbloemen — will happily perform double mastectomies on adolescent girls.

So, let’s review. Vanderbilt got into the gender transition game admittedly in large part because it is very financially profitable. They then threatened any staff members who objected, and enlisted a gang of trans activists to act as surveillance in order to force compliance.
They now castrate, sterilize, and mutilate minors as well as adults, while apparently taking steps to hide this activity from the public view.

This is what "health care" has become in modern America.

I also think he's as sexist as the TRAs and so no can't get on board with much except this.

But good expose and outcome so far.

The way the woman in the video explains how much money they can get for performing gender-affirming procedures 😵

Absolutely shocking, isn't it? A transcript might be good ...

Transcript of the first clip:

'Starting in January 1st, 2017, according to the affordable care act insurance cover carriers are mandated to cover medical expenses for Trans folks.

Um some of our UMC financial folks in 20 … in August of 20, I’m sorry, October of 2016, sorry, a couple years ago, put down some costs of how much money we think each patient would bring in – and this is only including Top surgery, this doesn’t include any bottom surgery - and … um … it’s a lot of money, these surgeries make a lot of money.

Um, so, female to male and chest reconstruction can bring in $40,000 a patient just on routine hormone treatment, who I’m only seeing a few times a year, can bring in several thousand dollars that requires a lot of [?business] and labs – it actually makes money for the hospital.

Now, these I got from the internet, um, but it’s from the Philadelphia Centre for transgender surgery, which has um does a lot of surgery for patients and I just want to give you an idea of how much these bottom surgeries are making and this is - I think this has to be – an underestimate. This is for a vaginoplasty.

They’re saying, they’re quoting roughly around $20k for a vaginoplasty, but that doesn’t include your hospital stay, that doesn’t include yoru post-op visits, that doesn’t include um – your anaesthesia, your OR, so I would think that this has to be a gross underestimate. I think that’s just like the surgeon’s piece of it, which anybody who’s ever been in the hospital knows that that’s like, ten percent of it.

Uh, and the female to male bottom surgery – these are huge money makers. Again, I think this has to be an underestimate, that they’re quoting around $20,000 for a phalloplasty, there’s been different things that I’ve read that said it could be up to a hundred thousand dollars.

Um, Dr Lineker, who’s our surgeon, said that there’s entire clinics where the entire clinic is supported just by their phalloplasties. And that is like, a fraction of the surgeries that they’re doing.

These surgeries are labour-intensive, they require a lot of follow-ups, they require a lot of OR time, and they make money. They make money for the hospital.'

these are huge money makers

It has always been about the money - everything else (including sanity, safeguarding, women’s rights, society) is disregarded or actively destroyed.

The (flimsy) defence of this video is that “of course the surgeries make money, that’s how the US healthcare system works, silly!” All surgeries make money, otherwise no hospital would do them.

So if they didn’t make money, no one would do them for their “life saving” or “gender affirming” nature then? 🤨

And she is pointing out that phalloplasties are major money makers exactly because of how complex, complicated and problematic they are. The more brutal gender-affirming care is, the better for the hospital in terms of 💰. It’s barbaric.

Thank you for the transcribe @ArabellaScott

So FtM is the biggest money spinner and FtM has seen the largest increase in referrals. Obviously there are additional reasons for the huge increase in teenage girls wishing to identify out of being female, but this has made it so very clear: follow the money. Time is ticking on the legal cases to come.

As for Matt Walsh, I don't care what his other views are. I would never had heard of him had he not been active on this. He gets a lot of coverage and I really don't care who blows the lid off this large scale malpractice.

I listened to that last night. And aside of the horror of this doctor selling the financial attractiveness of the hospital embracing these surgeries I was pretty shocked at her poor presentation. Lots of "these surgeries make a lot of money" but not much by way of fully referenced actual detail! If I was doing a big presentation trying to explain why my company/hospital whatever should be persuing a particular course of action I'd try to make a better business case than "lots of money"!

Money and boners.

This is absolute scandal and imo deeply criminal. When you looks at who the target demographic is, and how the trans community has been marketed to unhappy teenage girls via social media to get them to want this treatment, that it will make their bodies better and fix their unhappiness, it’s no different than any other beauty or body modification that’s been marketed to women since the Dawn of time.

patriarchy makes us feel shit about ourselves and the capitalism gives us a solution. The only difference here is the absolutely catastrophic ramifications on the fertility and long term health of the people who are being marketed to.

Nashville is a small lefty blob in a overwhelmingly republican state, the democrats there are very used to feeling under attack from the right, and unfortunately this is how it is being framed by local news outlets. Unfortunately I think it's going to require a lot more news, and specific stories about detransitioners for democrat Americans to realise how bad it is. They just disregard this information because it comes from Matt Walsh.

Fanny, yes, you'd think 'I got this off the internet' wasn't really the level of evidence required for a hospital.

Cutting young girls vaginas away makes lots of money!!

Cutting away little girls breasts generates lots of profit!!!

The post-surgical damage and pain will continue for years afterwards, generating long term income streams!!!

Secondary income streams will be generated from post-cutting phycological interventions!!!

A conscience is a barrier to making profit. You will voluntarily cut or be cut out.

Cut, cut, cut away and rake in the profit, profit, profit!!!🤮🤮🤮

Came across this detransitioner's testimony in the replies of the thread - what an incredibly sad story. I don't know how people could listen to this and not question gender affirming medicine for children. This speech was a part of a press conference by Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene who wants it to be made illegal.

I don't think the clinic has closed down has it? Just removed their website?

Matt Walsh is going full on in attacking and exposing anyone involved in this. He's not going to hold back.
His religious beliefs mean he will use extreme moral language around this where others will avoid such emotive language (in RL).

It's one strategy that will shock some people that they're now being attacked as 'evil' and 'abusive child mutilators' when previously they saw themselves as allys and champions.

This will make people getting involved think twice. Most people don't want public slurs thrown at them and will avoid controversy.

His approach will shift the public debate from: this is kind and supportive to you are evil child mutilators.

This will be shaking those involved even as they dismiss him as right wing extremists.

@MalagaNights i don't think it's as simple as that, politics is so very divided in the states that if you say you're a democrat you can't align yourself with anything from the right. It's going to take something big, emotive and personal like jazz Jennings detransitioning to really rock liberals world view that they're on the right side of history.

Jazz Jennings doesn’t have to detransition. Just point out all the negatives and say “don’t do this to the next generation.”

As opposed to the previous generation of adult males who actually still have their orgasm, sexual function and fertility and remain complication-free because surgery hasn’t been done on prepubertal tissue, who for some reason were taken seriously by doctors when they said they wish they could not have these things so they could “pass better.”

I agree @MrsJamin that it won't be sufficient as a tactic, but it definitely changes the discussion from the framing of we just 'care so much' to one where they have to defend themselves from serious and loud accusations of harming children.

That's a seriously uncomfortable place to be and one where a good portion of people who thought it was all 'rah rah we love LGBT rainbow flags' will quietly step away from.

It won't be enough to persuade people to openly join criticism with right wingers but it will make many go quiet and step away while it's battled out.

We're seeing this here. In a number of areas and professions; the 'rah rah rainbow flags' brigade have got quieter and smaller as they realise it's not quite as straight forward as they thought.

People are cowards. They'll retreat and see how it plays out.

I agree to an extent, but the term 'groomers' (a play on the derogatory 'boomers') hasn't appeared to make people re-evaluate their allegiances, so I am somewhat sceptical about the influence anyone from the right has on those inured deeply in leftish ideology (as pertains to this matter).

The young people (some in their 30s) I follow on SM are clearly intelligent, but just double down with 'Be kind' mantras anytime words are thrown at them or science is pointed out to them.

I realised the other day that there's a crossover between this and other unscientific realms of thought like 'body positivity' where the idea of a 'healthy diet' has been removed from scientific notions of nutrition, and negative health outcomes, to that of 'mental wellness.' On the face of it mental well-being as opposed to being obsessed with food seems practical until you see that they mean a morbidly obese person can describe themselves as having a healthy diet, so long as they're feeling mentally well, while still eating whatever they want as much as want to.

These people are resistant to any information that goes against what they believe in and will call you transphobic in a heartbeat as they feel threatened in their own belief system (knowing deep in their soul that it's foundations are fragile, maybe?) I don't know.

So there are overlaps of belief systems where not believing in one thing..threatens the belief support and foundation of the other thing. All the corresponding beliefs support each other.

It's a belief network. Simply pointing out obvious facts about how terrible this is, isn't going to make people rethink the issue. They'd have to rethink everything else in the land of make believe.

It's going to be a slow process.

But some dissonance is created when your assumption that you were on the good side is challenged openly and the use of emotive language suggesting you are 'the baddie' is now used against you.

Of course this is not enough to change minds in itself but it changes the dynamic of the debate and the position people have to take in response.

I hope you're right @MalagaNights . It's going to be very interesting to see how long those on the left can be resistant to mounting evidence that they're wrong. I do think I can detect a quietening of my own leftwing very pro trans circle as perhaps they have started to think "hold on a minute" but I think it will take even longer in the states. You really need some major figures on the left to speak out - but then you only need to see what's happened to JkR to assume that would be social and professional suicide.

I think some people will step back. But not the ones who are committed to the idea of progressivism.

I think those people may actually hold on more strongly to their beliefs. These tend to be the kind of people who imagine the Boris Johnson was a member of the far-right, and that conservatives actually have a philosophy that says being selfish and greedy is good. Anything people "on the other side" believe they tend to distort so that they can imagine it is a wholly evil belief.