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Academic article on the Dutch protocol, puberty blockers etc by Michael Biggs

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/09/2022 15:17

Apologies if there is already a thread on this. I couldn't see one. New academic article by Professor Michael Biggs of the University of Oxford. Open access, so you should be able to read the entire text using the link below.

It's jawdropping stuff. I am not an academic or an HCP, but I could follow the gist of it. To my amateur eyes the case for giving children and teenagers puberty blockers and then cross-sex hormones and 'gender affirming' surgery (i.e. double mastectomy for girls, followed by hysterectomy and removal of ovaries, removal of testicles and surgery on penis for boys) is based on appallingly flimsy evidence. Who has been advocating for the children in all of this? Why haven't HCPs and scientists, not to mention politicians and social worker, been looking at this and saying 'No'?

www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2121238

The Dutch Protocol for Juvenile Transsexuals: Origins and Evidence
Michael Biggs
Published online: 19 Sep 2022

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TheBiologyStupid · 23/09/2022 21:11

Meant to include the quote:

Finally, the Tavistock’s statement cites a recent article on bone density, coauthored by Butler (Tobin, Ting, and Butler 2018). The article – a one-page abstract – emphasizes that bone density did not decline, in absolute terms, after GnRHa was administered. This is extremely misleading, as pointed out by Dr Michael Laidlaw and reiterated by Dr William J. Malone, both endocrinologists. Growing children need bone density to increase.

www.transgendertrend.com/tavistock-experiment-puberty-blockers-update/

ScreamingMeMe · 23/09/2022 21:27

Horrifying. If/when this blows up, it's surely going to be a huge scandal!

WarriorN · 25/09/2022 06:47

Hadn't seen this thread, very important paper.

I can't believe the lack of proper research and the amount of hidden negative impacts. Nor longer studies.

20 years is quoted as a necessary time frame. We are only just coming to that time for the earliest batches of kids who used pbs. But no follow up. Horrific.

Michael is researching a helluva lot of this social contagion among professionals, I can also attest to.

WarriorN · 25/09/2022 06:53

TheBiologyStupid · 23/09/2022 21:03

The most important problem is the deliberately disingenuous comparison of absolute mineral bone density in a cohort where bone density should be increasing through puberty. Shocking.

It's basic knowledge. I was sent on a teaching course about nutrition (with a view to supporting how I taught the kids) and the trainer said really, free milk should be being given out to later primary and early teens due to this important phase for bone density.

How we have schools believing in an ideology that actively support the destruction of children's skeletons, IQ and ability to be a healthy adult.

ResisterRex · 25/09/2022 21:33

Mermaids are mentioned in Biggs' article. And they're the subject of this investigation in the Telegraph, where puberty blockers are discussed:

"Despite the growing body of evidence, Mermaids insisted that: “Puberty blockers are an internationally recognised, safe, reversible, healthcare option which have been recommended by medical authorities in the UK and internationally for decades.”"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/25/exclusive-trans-charity-mermaids-giving-breast-binders-children/

Accessible here

twitter.com/cforwomenuk/status/1574128870550298624?s=46&t=ll8FVDVEW8jmxPy7ouS7Tg

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