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Medical decision-making competence regarding puberty suppression: perceptions of transgender adolescents, their parents and clinicians

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rogdmum · 19/09/2022 09:36

Recently published by Dutch clinicians. It looks at whether or not children/adolescents are capable of giving informed consent to puberty blocker treatment.

link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00787-022-02076-6

It’s a qualitative study and many of the comments from the young people, parents and clinicians are troubling- e.g.

“I think I had thought about it [starting treatment with puberty suppression or not starting this treatment] pretty well. But as a 12 or 13 year-old, you can’t really judge what it’s all about. So I had thought about it [starting the treatment or not], but only as much as I was able to at the time [I decided to start with the treatment] (Interview with a transgirl who continued PS; age at start PS: 12.9; age at interview: 17.8)”

“It doesn’t really mean much to a 12 year-old when you’re talking about osteoporosis. She [my daughter] understood [what osteoporosis meant], but she thought 'what does it matter’, we’ll see about that later (Interview with a parent of a transgirl who continued PS; age at start PS: 12.9; age at interview: 17.8)”

“I did have the feeling that I stood still while the rest [my peers who did go through pubertal development] went on [...] [Before starting the treatment with puberty suppression] I hadn’t thought very much about what that could do to you mentally. [...] I was quite depressed during that time. And [...] I think that it [the fact that I had the feeling I stood still while my peers went through their pubertal development] also played a part in how I felt [depressed] at the time. I had not foreseen that beforehand (Interview with a transgirl who continued PS; age at start PS: 12.0; age at interview: 18.1)”

“My parents mostly investigated it [what treatment with puberty suppression entails] for me, because I really didn’t want to know anything about it […] I just couldn’t talk about it and I didn’t want to look anything up [regarding the treatment] because doing so reminded me of being [a] transgender [person]. But because my parents are like that, I ended up where I am now. Otherwise, it would have been a different story (Interview with a transgirl who continued PS; age at start PS: 12.0; age at interview: 18.1)”

“Yes, we as parents and I [the mother] in particular [have weighed the pros and cons of the treatment]. [...] I like to know what to expect, so I read up on things a bit more. My son isn’t like that; he hears it [the possibility to start the treatment], accepts it, and goes on (Interview with a parent of a transboy who continued PS; age at start PS: 11.9; age at interview: 18.5)”

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WarriorN · 19/09/2022 09:44

because I really didn’t want to know anything about it […] I just couldn’t talk about it and I didn’t want to look anything up [regarding the treatment] because doing so reminded me of being [a] transgender [person].

That's very much what children and teen mindsets are about.

Danger awareness can be lower and risk taking can be much higher. Danger awareness is a particular difficulty many young people with autism have; it's often listed on EHCPs and is an objective we have to work on in school.

Bonkers the obvious has to be researched but it's the only way to counter the madness.

WarriorN · 19/09/2022 09:44

Thanks for sharing

rogdmum · 19/09/2022 09:53

One of the things that has bothered me ever since I ended up involved in this issue is that lobby groups seem to operate under a general blanket statement around competence. Ie yes, adolescents have decision making abilities but it is ignored that these decision making capabilities are in line with what is developmentally appropriate at their particular age. This doesn’t mean they are competent to make any and all medical decisions for themselves.

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ChagSameachDoreen · 19/09/2022 09:59

When you think about it properly, the idea of suppressing puberty is really fucking sinister.

sanluca · 19/09/2022 10:05

Of course it’s sad that she might die sooner because of all the chemicals that she has to take, but on the other hand there’s no point in living your life if you’re not able to be yourself

Wow.

ArabellaScott · 19/09/2022 10:05

I really didn’t want to know anything about it […] I just couldn’t talk about it and I didn’t want to look anything up [regarding the treatment] because doing so reminded me of being [a] transgender [person]

So sad. And confusing. This person is unwilling to even think about being 'trans', so is presumably considered a good candidate for being put on a transition pathway? This sounds like extreme denial, and enormously unhealthy as a basis for making any decisions.

WarriorN · 19/09/2022 11:08

Very sinister

pantsforteaagain · 19/09/2022 12:52

I can't link through to the article. Can you give the title and authors?

rogdmum · 19/09/2022 13:14

points The title is the same as the thread title and here’s a screenshot of the authors

Medical decision-making competence regarding puberty suppression: perceptions of transgender adolescents, their parents and clinicians
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pantsforteaagain · 19/09/2022 15:14

Thanks!

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