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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Telegraph on confusing terminology

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DdraigGoch · 06/09/2022 16:48

Anyone need a good laugh?

The Telegraph's sketchwriter on the labyrinth of newfangled words and acronyms.
www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/09/06/absurd-woke-sex-advice-should-make-us-feel-sorry-todays-young/

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PostmortemNow · 06/09/2022 17:00

Me here!
I always need a good laugh, please.
Just another bloody pay wall, I'm afraid...
Thank you anyway.
😁

PostmortemNow · 06/09/2022 17:06

"For young men, adolescence has always been a difficult time. I remember it well. The insecurity. The awkwardness. The peer pressure. Looking back, though, there’s one thing I’m profoundly grateful for.
At least in my day we didn’t have to know what a polyamorous pansexual AFAB was.
Today’s young men have no such luck. I’ve just been reading the agony uncle page on the website of Men’s Health, the world’s biggest men’s magazine. An unnamed young man has written in because he’s confused about his sexuality. “If I’m sexually attracted to people AFAB because of anatomy,” he asks, “does that make me pansexual?”
In case you’re unfamiliar with the term “people AFAB”, it stands for “people assigned female at birth”. Or, as we used to call them in the old days, “women”.
The reader goes on to explain that he’s “not attracted to people AMAB” (people assigned male at birth, or as they were formerly known, “men”).

On the other hand, he imagines that he could conceivably be attracted to “someone AFAB who comes out as a trans man but doesn’t choose surgery” (that is, a woman who identifies as a man but still has the body of a woman). Hence his question about whether he might be “pansexual”.
At this point you may be thinking, “Hang on. He’s a man who’s physically attracted to women. Doesn’t that make him heterosexual?” If so, I’m afraid you’re dreadfully behind the times – as is made clear by the magazine’s agony uncle, Zachary Zane, a self-proclaimed “sex-positive, polyamorous, bisexual kinkster” and “ethical boyslut”.
Mr Zane explains that the reader’s tastes “technically meet the definition of bisexuality”, because he’s “attracted to vulva-owners of multiple genders”. He expresses some concern, however, that the reader may be “fetishizing people with a vulva”…
The young men of today often get a bad rap, but if this is the kind of advice they’re getting, I feel sorry for them. Adolescence is confusing enough without having to learn all this mad woke jargon. The question that must confuse them most, however, is this.
Why is the magazine they’re reading still called Men’s Health? Surely it should be called Penis-Owners’ Health, or AMAB Monthly."

Is this the one?

FunnyTalks · 06/09/2022 17:55

Oohh that makes me a bisexual penis-fetishist! Which makes me queer. Off to insert myself into lgbtq+ places loudly and proudly.

Should we cancel Zachary Zane? He claims to be sex positive, but I got a distinct impression of kink shaming from his tone. It's not his job to police people's fetishes.

PostmortemNow · 06/09/2022 18:17

Well, this RCOG consultation paper will no doubt
clarify the matter once and for all:

"Table 1. Terminology
Cis-woman,
cis-man or cisgendered
A person whose gender identity is congruent with the sex assigned at birth
Trans woman Person assigned male at birth with a female gender identity (AMAB); some do
not use this term and self-describe as ‘woman, with a trans history’
Trans man Person assigned female at birth with a male gender identity (AFAB); some do
not use this term and self-describe as ‘man, with a trans history’
Transsexual A gender identity that is inconsistent with, or not culturally associated with,
the assigned sex; discourteous when used as a noun
Trans gender A more appropriate term than transsexual, which may also imply use of
hormones and/or surgery
Trans feminine Assigned male at birth, experiencing and/or expressing a more feminine
identity, but not necessarily identifying as a woman
Trans masculine Assigned female at birth, experiencing and/or expressing a more masculine
identity, but not necessarily identifying as a man
Non-binary A person who experiences and/or express an identity other than ‘man’ or
woman’; may include people who identify as being of both genders (bigender) or having no gender (agender)
Transitioning Adopting the outward or physical characteristics of the gender one identifies
with, as opposed to the one assigned at birth; not all TGD people will affirm
that they have ‘transitioned’.
Gender dysphoria Distress or psychosocial discomfort associated with the individual’s sex
assigned at birth
LGBTQQIAPP+ An acronym representing lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, questioning,
intersex, asexual, a-romantic, pansexual, polysexual (sometimes abbreviated
to LGBT or LGBTQ+) people.
Top surgery Masculinising (i.e. reduction mammoplasty) or feminising (i.e. augmentation
mammoplasty) chest reconstruction surgery
Bottom (or lower)
Surgery
Masculinising (i.e. phalloplasty or metoidioplasty) or feminising (i.e.
vulvoplasty, with or without vaginoplasty) genital reconstruction surgery
Cis-sexism Prejudice in favour of cis-gender people"

Simple, elegant - not to mention eloquent.
Which also makes me quizzy and dizzy but also
very busy staring at this shit trying to find some
sense in it.

Flatmountains · 06/09/2022 18:22

I've got a headache now

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