Mansplained gender identity when I stated difference between sex and gender!

[AnnaBegins]

Attending D&I training at work today which was mostly excellent, however one slide of protected characteristics had gender and gender identity listed, so I spoke up to say the characteristic of sex was missing and gender mentioned twice. The course leader totally understood, and it was probably due to trying not to offend the mostly American employees, though on a UK training course really the UK Equality Act terms should be used. All good there.

However, whilst trying to say this, I was talked over by a middle aged chap (not UK based so may not have known the Equality Act), who patronisingly mansplained to me that sexual orientation was already on the slide, and gender identity means being trans. He was very pleased with how up to date and on trend he was Several times did I try to explain that sex and sexual orientation are in fact different things, but no, he knew best. Luckily I have a strong line in withering looks even over video call, waited for him to finish then concisely corrected him.

Anyway, despite his "kind intervention" I'm proud of myself for speaking up and hopefully getting the slides improved for the next session.

Well done! The more we all speak up and challenge misconceptions, the better off the next generation will be :)

Yes. Glad that you spoke up. Let’s hope that others have listened and understood.

I opened the thread thinking that you were going to tell us someone had at last defined gender identity and one of life's great mysteries would be solved. Instead it's just some bloke telling a woman what she already knows. 😁

Well done for speaking up.

Well done and to the mansplainers. I'm glad the trainer knew what you meant

I'm certain this man was of the opinion he had totally defined it and solved the mystery, it just means being trans don't you know

Well done 👏

Well done!

When dudes like this claim to be allll about supporting gender diversity, they definitely don't mean women stepping out of their gender stereotype socialisation and speaking up for themselves.

however one slide of protected characteristics had gender and gender identity listed

And actually, the protected characteristics are:

• Sex
• Gender reassignment

Well done.

So sick of this shit

If you’d studied A Level psychology with AQA before 2017 you would know the definition of gender identity as it was on their specification 🤪 Pretty sure that TRAs will have gutted the curriculum by now….after all it also defined the difference between sex and gender 😝

Well done
And does your username come from the Counting Crows song?

Nice one. Can't help thinking the mansplainer will go home and do a bit of personal entertainment thinking about how magnificent he was.

I opened the thread thinking that you were going to tell us someone had at last defined gender identity and one of life's great mysteries would be solved.

For others still hoping for this, Rebecca Reilly-Cooper's got the best analysis of attempted definitions, in a 2016 talk.

Critically Examining the doctrine of gender identity

Definitely something to watch if you've not seen it before.

Spoiler alert:

She does not, in fact, find a proper definition.

@DameHelena yes indeed it does!

Love that whole album

Anna your bravery is an inspiration to the rest of us to do the same. Well done you.

Zactly the same here.

Disappointing.

But well done, OP!

I find it useful never to explain anything to any woman. Works out just fine. Happy days.

thank you for speaking up.

@IrisAtwood "If you’d studied A Level psychology with AQA before 2017 you would know the definition of gender identity as it was on their specification"
I studied A Level psychology in the early 80's and gender identity wasn't on the curriculum then. But everyone agreed what a woman was. Life was so much easier (even though we worried about nuclear annihilation)

Well done and glad you withered the mansplainer - USians are sometimes so entitled. You could also have picked up on 'gender identity', which is not a protected characteristic of the EA2010; gender re-assignment is protected, though it would have diluted your point, I think.

Transplaining?!

I bet this isn't the first time that's happened to anybody....