Organisation wanted to know gender not sex

[willthatbeall]

I'm in the process of signing consent forms for my teenage female sex daughter to join a club. Activities will include residential camps. The application form only asks for the young persons GENDER and pronouns it does not ask for sex. I'm a bit worried about this - how will the leaders know how to safeguard the kids if they don't know who is male or female sex? I'm worried about my 15 year old having to sleep in a tent or room with a male sex person as this will put her in a vulnerable position and cause lots of stress to her.

Do leaders have to offer single SEX accommodation?

I'm also going to post my worry about the new unisex toilets at school (cubicles and shared sink area)

Is this in the UK?
Schools have to segregate dormitories by sex not gender, and I can't see why a club would be any different. I think you need to be careful how you check, make sure you ask something like 'is the sleeping accommodation single sex or single gender and potentially mixed sex' and don't leave them any wiggle room.
sex-matters.org/where-sex-matters/schools-and-safeguarding/

Schools have to supply single sex toilets with sanitary waste bins for girls. I don't think there's any legislation that prevents them from also having unisex toilets in addition to those, but they are not supposed to be the main toilets.
sex-matters.org/posts/single-sex-services/sex-matters-influences-toilets-policy/

Gender - female, they are being woke, there is a possibility of trans male or trans female children, if that is the case other arrangements may need to be made.

But how would they know if kids are trans if they don't ask us to state the sex of the child? Only their gender and pronouns.
I can't see how the organisation can make accurate safeguarding decisions without accurate information about those in their care.
Should I just say no the club? It really worries me and is a major national organisation.

I agree with you OP that this strongly suggests that there will be no safeguarding around this. Assume that there may be boys in the girls' dormitory. If this concerns you (as it would me) raise the issue with the club in case they are willing to address this. If you encourage others to do the same, perhaps the club will take it on board.

Ask them. I was signing up DS for something a while back and it asked gender (ok so maybe they are mixing sex with gender, I thought), then it asked his pronouns.

I asked them what their policy was for their residentials - oh it’s ok - separated by gender… ‘sex’ I said, ‘gender’ they said. I told them to delete the application and asked if they had good lawyers.

This annoys me too...

Army cadets have "what is your gender"

Police online reporting "same"

It's bloody everywhere

Last time I went to my osteo she is changes clinic and I was handed a paper forum to complete. I put a line through ‘gender’ and wrote ‘sex’. The receptionist looked at it and said ‘oh yeah… I’m going to have to change that form’.

It so that your daughter can be used to be responsible for some boys feelings, because they see male desires as more important than any females safety, dignity or privacy.

Of course, if you complain they'll say you are a transphobe when they are the misogynists who put you in that position.

They are relying on you either assuming they mean sex, or your fear of threats of violence etc.. from gender ideologists to keep you quiet & compliant because they need your money & your daughter to let boys who want to use girls facilities to feel properly validated.

Could I add at the bottom
Of the consent form that I expect to be notified if my female sex daughter will be sharing with male sex individuals?
Is there anything legal about shared sex accommodation for under 16s?

Get clarity, I’ve had two episodes of this, one “women’s” org were spectacularly shite. The other simply let me know when males would be in attendance so I had a choice.

Neither imo have the right to market themselves as women’s organisations but at least the latter gave options.

I have been told that funders requirements led to this bs so I have some sympathy but it’s limited due to their obfuscation putting women at risk and/or just plain hoping women won’t notice/speak out.

With regard to a children/teen/young adult situation, no way would I risk an overnight where gender is the decider rather than sex.

Ask them to confirm that it's mixed-sex accommodation, separated by gender identity.

You need clarity. If they are asking gender then are the helpers present and future asked gender? Make sure you say sex as in male and female. Non binary is also an issue ask about a male non binary who wants to share with girls?
it is not transphobic it is sageguarding.
safe Schools Alliance have a good Factsheets (see 13 and 15) you can share with them (print and hand to them). safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/factsheets/

I got asked for my gender tonight when completing a school application.

Not sure why that is needed. I am not going to school, child is. I have acknowledged that I have parental responsibility and the mother.

So why do they need to know it?

Always tempted to ask why they need it for gDPR but don't want to jeopardise getting the school I want 🤣

This is a real problem with gender. I also got asked this exact same question for my child on school application.

I wouldn't necessarily mind the gender question if it was in addition to the sex one.

I would be concerned, but hopefully on the ground, there would be consideration for girls especially.

My daughter is going away with a club and I have specially said on the form (it was an option) that she has to sleep in a single sex shared space.