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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another child not allowed to be a child.

48 replies

CrossStichQueen · 28/08/2022 10:16

Noelle McMaher is a 10 year old trans model who started social transition aged 4 then legal transition aged 7. Apparently Noelles love of fashion and glitter was the firm indicator that Noelle wanted to be a girl not a boy.

Noelle has an infant sibling who is referred to as the theybie as they are being raised non binary by female parents who one or both were trans then de-transed and are now non binary but still trans.

There is much talk of the millions of dollars Noelle could earn at aged 10 as a trans model much talk of how Noelle preferred girl clothes to boy clothes but no talk of if Noelle changes their mind as one of their parents did.

I firmly believe this is a form of child abuse along the lines of Munchausen by proxy and given the evidence of transing children this child will end up on a medical pathway with no choice in the matter and be a cash cow for the family.

When will the authorities and medical professionals wake up to the abuse and harm carried out on children in the name of Diversity?

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Boiledbeetle · 28/08/2022 13:17

God I feel old saying this but no child, boy girl or wombat should be wearing that much make-up.

Aghhh I've turned into my mother.

Forgotthebins · 28/08/2022 13:36

Poor child. Looks like the parents see the child as a meal ticket, I don’t know how much child models earn but I don’t imagine you get 1-2 million dollars from a couple of photos in George of Asda advertising. Sounds like a lot of work for a child. And the same would be true absent any trans situation. The situation with the Dad fracturing the child’s arm to force the pyjamas on sounds very traumatic.

movingcastle · 28/08/2022 13:39

Let's be honest, if Noelle wasn't 'trans' then Noelle would be of no interest to anyone and certainly wouldn't be on a catwalk. There are adults making a lot of money from this who should be ashamed of themselves. It also begs the question of how any medical interventions can be freely consented to when a pay packet relies on them. What is the route out of this for Noelle when/if one is needed? The pressure to continue with it must be immense.

AuntMasha · 28/08/2022 13:43

It’s all kind of wrong to plaster a 10 year old’s face with makeup and put them on the catwalk. Particularly now that - post Epstein - we know that the modelling industry attracts predators.

ThatsWahtYouGetWhenYouLetYourHeartWin · 28/08/2022 14:57

CrossStichQueen · 28/08/2022 10:44

Why couldn't Noella be a boy child model who breaks down barriers by wearing clothes normally marketed at girls?
Why couldn't Noella be told that they can wear what they like and play with any toys they choose but they are a boy as they were born male.
What is so wrong with truth and facts?

Exactly!

My son likes to wear dresses because he finds them comfortable and doesn't like the dull "boys clothes" he likes the colours and sparkles that are usually only found on "girls clothes"

He also has hair down to his arse.

He knows he's a boy though. He knows the clothes you like and your hobbies and interests aren't what make you male or female.

If I'd been like these parents and pushed him towards that other way of thinking I could easily see him thinking that yea, he must be a girl, but we haven't so he doesn't. Instead he realises boys can like sparkly pink things and still be boys.

PotatoHammock · 28/08/2022 15:54

I often worry that adults forget to safeguard boys as fiercely as girls. The prevailing assumption often being that boys are generally tougher, and more inherently sexualised then girls of the same age. Like, that old myth that a younger boy can't be abused by an older woman because "I bet he loved it, wahey!"

I would be very concerned that a boy who looks like a girl might be exposed to even more inappropriate/damaging behaviour in this (highly age-inappropriate setting) than an actual girl. Although, don't get me wrong, there's not a chance in hell I'd introduce my own daughter or son into the world of catwalk modelling.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 28/08/2022 17:54

The child is 10, puberty is imminent.
They're not going to allow the child to go through normal puberty are they.

SolasAnla · 28/08/2022 18:02

Lots of children still end up suing their parents for spending the money they earned to fund the parents lifestyle or assets.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/young-stars-sue-parents-money-is-it-1132846/amp/

If the child is still resident in Illinois the State will allow 5 hours work per day in the school term once 3 hours of schooling is provided and 7 on weekends or during the summer.

www2.illinois.gov/dceo/whyillinois/Film/FilmingInIllinois/Pages/ChildLaborLaws.aspx

@PotatoHammock I agree and with the known problem with sexual exploitation, the use of drugs etc to control weight was one reason why there was such a big push to stop the industry exploiting young teens.

TheMarzipanDildo · 28/08/2022 18:03

Just shocking. Angry

”it’s not about clothes!” but if they stick this child on blockers and hormones, it will all be because they liked glitter at two and a half. Here’s a novel idea for both the mother and father: let your kid wear pink/sparkles/ whatever AS A BOY. It would be a fuckton more radical than this sexist shite.

Musomama1 · 28/08/2022 18:04

It's age old though isn't it, the child star pushed by the parents, nothing new.

The problem is the trans spin and putting your child on a train towards medicalisation and surgery. Which I believe should be very adult decisions.

This has been discussed so often but why would I want my child to potentially never develop normally in the sexual department, never be able to have children, never experience natural puberty.

Wouldn't you want to prevent that, isn't that just common sense? Like OP says make Noelle a model for boys wearing whatever clothes they like.

Suzi888 · 28/08/2022 18:10

And the child has been abused by her father…. broke her arm.

Also” Noella and McMaher were profiled in Chicago Parent, wherein it was stated McMaher has planned for Noella to have “gender surgeries” at age 16, but would start the child on puberty blockers and hormone therapy before then.”

Both parents are abusing her in my opinion.

Skiphopbump · 28/08/2022 18:15

I bet no other child walking the catwalk at NY fashion week had that level of makeup on. Why hyper sexualise a trans kid?

CatSpeakForDummies · 28/08/2022 21:21

Skiphopbump · 28/08/2022 18:15

I bet no other child walking the catwalk at NY fashion week had that level of makeup on. Why hyper sexualise a trans kid?

Exactly - and two female parents who wear no make up at all.

It reminds me of parents I know who'd be horrified if their teenage daughter wanted a boob job but would be thrilled if their son wanted one.

It's just showing off how open minded they are, whilst totally accepting sexist stereotypes.

GCBookseller · 28/08/2022 22:03

That child has a lifetime of psychological (and probably physical) issues ahead. Grim.

FrippEnos · 28/08/2022 22:44

SolasAnla · 28/08/2022 10:46

If he broke the childs arm fighting to put on PJ's I doubt that was the first time physical violence occured in the house. So I can totally understand a male child who has feminine interests not wishing to associate with the main "masculine" role model in his young life.

I'm not going to defend the father breaking the child's arm but we don't know what occurred before that other than they were separated at the time and the mother was transitioning the child, and since then (from the report in the OP) he "tried to get back into their lives but it was too contentious and stressful for everyone."

I worry about these children and what they are going to face in the future.

littlbrowndog · 28/08/2022 22:45

Child abuse for money and fame

follow the money

NoBarrelOfLaughs · 28/08/2022 23:47

The comments under the article make it crystal clear that most people think this is nuts at best, and abusive at worst.

Does anyone understand how they were able to get the child’s sex on the birth certificate changed?

DdraigGoch · 29/08/2022 08:30

Trans by four? I wonder if they family also has a vegan cat...

beastlyslumber · 29/08/2022 08:36

That child is being abused.

CrossStichQueen · 29/08/2022 08:52

That child is being abused.

I agree and in the public eye to boot!

There is nothing wrong with supporting your child to wear what they like, play with whatever toys even change their name if they don't like it. What is wrong is to convince them that they have changed sex, will be fully accepted as that sex and that doing so will be easy!
The truth as we know is very different and I blame the parents for knowing full well what life they are forcing their child to lead as at 10 year old they cannot understand or consent to.

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TheMarzipanDildo · 29/08/2022 15:07

ADreamIsAllINeedToGetBy · 28/08/2022 12:22

That picture of Noella flicking the v is awful. I would be utterly ashamed if my children did that, I certainly wouldn't pose for a photo and splash it all over the media

In fairness, the V doesn’t mean what it means over here in the States. It’s just the peace sign.

(I’m not willing to defend anything else about their parenting!)

GCMM · 30/08/2022 13:33

As for this child being on the cusp of puberty, I would strongly suspect that puberty will be blocked pretty sharpish.

Circumferences · 30/08/2022 16:05

Whatever happened to "Desmond is amazing" anyway.....

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