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The Spectator Australia - Girls Schools are for Girls!

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CaveMum · 24/08/2022 11:16

Fantastic article

www.spectator.com.au/2022/08/girls-schools-are-for-girls/

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Girls' schools are for girls

When I was at University, I took old-fashioned Women’s Studies. We used to study things like the ways women become disadvantaged in society, how girls were educated and socialised, and what society needed to do for girls to give them better opportunities to thrive.

Feminists used to look at the cultural messages girls were given about themselves and their future lives and how these could limit girls’ understanding of what they could do in life. We lobbied for a change in domesticated characterisations of women in media. As a result, television shows and advertisements from the 1970s look embarrassingly sexist to today’s eyes.

As a feminist, I tried not to limit my daughters to clothes, toys, and interests considered typical of girls. I then sent them to single-sex private schools because it was known that girls do better in single-sex schools. You will hear women apologise for affording this luxury to their female children. There was a time, not long ago, when some families sent the boys to private schools but didn’t bother to waste the money on their girls. You won’t hear me apologising for the money I spent sending my girls to a private school. I am a true believer.

In grade five, my daughter became interested in orchestral percussion. She was quite talented and went on tour to play other schools. After one such tour, she came home and asked me if I knew that drums were ‘supposed to be a boy thing’.

My daughter went on to explain that the school she played with on tour was not a private school but a state school. I remember the emphasis on ‘state’ because I thought she was going to make a snobby remark.

She said:
‘I thought all the drummers were boys because it was a boys’ school, but it’s a state school, so they have girls but none of the girls play the drums – none of them – and when I asked the boys why no girls played the drums, they told me that drums are a boy thing.’

I remember my daughter searching my face for signs of recognition of what she was saying, of shock at this thing she had discovered. I will never forget the confusion I had about how I would begin to tell her.

I thought about this conversation when I heard about the human rights complaint levelled against a Brisbane private girls’ school for not allowing a ‘trans girl’. My first thought was that it may be my daughter’s alma mater and I thought to myself ‘well, there goes girls’ education’… It turns out to be so much worse.

There is another Queensland girls’ school that specialises in assisting the most vulnerable of girls. This school is not a seat of privilege; it is a place for girls who have real problems – a place where girls with serious challenges can learn in a single-sex specialist environment. I have had people contact me who are connected to this school. It is an extremely well-respected institution and the girls there receive excellent targeted education.

Girls’ schools more generally are part of the protective and supporting infrastructure that women and girls have built and changed in Western societies through what we now call the ‘women’s revolution’.

The infrastructure for girls and women in our societies would have once limited a girl by imposing and reinforcing societal roles and a limited skill set that was needed for a woman’s role in society as a wife, mother, and domestic worker.

After the industrial revolution, as women became more involved in the economy, women’s public role transitioned from employment as seamstresses (like my grandmother), housemaids, and children’s teachers gradually to secretaries, typists, and retail workers, not that long ago.

When I was at school in the 70s, I remember a teacher asking the class what we wanted to be when we grew up. All the girls said ‘hairdresser’ or ‘airline hostess’. The way girls know, without being taught, that they have limited pathways in life is called ‘gender stereotyping’. Gender is the cultural meaning societies give to sex and it has long been a focus of feminists. Gender, we know, can limit the lives of girls, even when all other legal and education pathways have been opened up to them.

The much thrown around juvenile accusation that feminists ‘started all this gender nonsense’, is not without a basis in truth. Feminists did separate gender from sex to engage and critique gender stereotyping. But the takeover of the management of gender by the government in ‘equity’ and ‘inclusion’ has no logical relationship to the women’s revolution other than it being the water on the fire that feminists of my grandmother’s generation started.

The male child who is seeking entry into the Queensland girls’ school is doing so on the basis that they have taken on a ‘trans’ feminine identity. This just means the child has been told that the performance of female stereotypes makes them literally female. On the video posted by the terminally progressive News.com, we see the child say that they are transgender because the mother has ‘known since I was in kindergarten’. The mother then interjects to say, ‘Yeah, she likes – um – ballerina clothes and stuff.’

Old school gays and old school feminists are uniting in a middle-aged rage party about this issue for a very good reason. This same media snippet about ballerina clothes that will have feminists screaming that ‘tutu’s do not define girls!’ will have many gay men saying ‘ohh Christ above, that was me!’ as they vigorously cross their legs.

The minute a boy child enters into the infrastructure designed to support female bodies, the infrastructure and the female children become repurposed to affirm the stereotypes the boy child performs – the stereotypes many of us try to isolate our daughters from.

At the same time, the boy child is locked into a pathway modelled around the ‘affirmation’ of ‘gender care’ that almost always leads to medical and surgical intervention.

The reason I sent my daughters to girls’ school was that within a girls’ school, girls learn that every one of worth within that school has the same type of body as them. They learn that people with that type of body are important and valuable. In a girls’ school, girls have access to the best music, maths, science, and drama teachers that a school can attract.

When periods and sex are discussed in a girls’ school, it is only ever in the presence of girls and only ever from a female perspective. There are no boys at a girls’ school to gaze at the girls’ bodies, to peek under the toilet stalls, or to initiate them into the ‘itty bitty titty committee’.

Once a boy enters a girls’ single-sex environment, for the comfort of the boy child, the girl child must learn that her body has nothing to do with her historical oppression – oppression that her grannies have only just dragged her out of, relatively speaking. The girl child must learn the periods she will soon need to manage have nothing to do with her being female or the history of women and women’s historical consignment to the domestic sphere.

The entry of boy children into a girls’ school teaches girls that they are not important enough for their society to provide appropriate boundaries and protections for people with their type of body. It tells girls that the feelings and desires of boys will always override the needs of girls.

The girl child of the gender ideology age will learn that powerful historical women like Joan of Arc were not even women, because the stereotypes that changed her trans friend from a boy to a girl could not have lived in Joan of Arc. A girl child will learn that without the right stereotypes, a girl is not even a girl, and will never be a real woman.

Progressives are demanding access to the protection and support infrastructure for women and girls. Whatever you think of girls’ schools, they are not there to affirm the identities of boys who believe themselves to be girls.

Girls are not made of sugar and spice and all things nice, they are juvenile human females. They carry all the large gametes of the earth and will grow to birth all of the children in the next generation.

Have some respect. We shouldn’t have to justify why we want to keep what already belongs to us. There should be no males in female designated infrastructure in this country. We’ll be having those toilets back too, thanks very much.

Edie Wyatt has a BA Hons from the Institute of Cultural Policy Studies and writes on culture, politics and feminism. She blogs at ediewyatt.com and substack.

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Lymregent · 24/08/2022 11:37

Thanks for sharing. It breaks my heart what is happening to women and girls spaces. When will this end?!

Bitebite · 24/08/2022 11:49

Thank you for sharing. I find it very useful to read this type of well-argued article because it helps me to articulate how I feel. I'm not normally one who is lost for words but sometimes I am struck dumb by the sheer lunacy of the new gender religion and I struggle to say anything coherent. I also find myself increasingly perplexed, and hugely disappointed, by women who don't understand how dangerous this ideology has become.

I sent my girls to a girls' schools for similar reasons to the author. I'd say it worked in that neither feels constrained by gender stereotypes. The school is becoming more and more captured though, which is a shame (but that haven't managed to capture my daughters - ha!)

belleager · 24/08/2022 12:15

I find this really well expressed and thought provoking:

The minute a boy child enters into the infrastructure designed to support female bodies, the infrastructure and the female children become repurposed to affirm the stereotypes the boy child performs – the stereotypes many of us try to isolate our daughters from.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 24/08/2022 12:19

Very well written. The last few paragraphs really resonated with me.

Norabuzz · 24/08/2022 12:26

Excellent. Thanks for sharing.

KittyKlaws · 24/08/2022 12:33

Thank you for sharing this with us. It is a well reasoned article which was a pleasure to read.

I am filled with frustration over what is happening to the infrastructure for women and girls and even more so with those who fail to see the issues despite them being set out like this. It is always good to see a rational piece of writing telling the truth of what this infiltration means for girls. It reminds me that frustrating as this is, tearful and depressed as this issue makes me, we must keep fighting for us and for the future women and girls.

NotYourCisterinAus · 24/08/2022 12:56

Another good article from The Spectator Australia. Thank you, OP, for posting it. I've followed up by going to the author's website to read her blog.

EsmaCannonball · 24/08/2022 13:17

I went to a mixed-sex school. In the sixth-form one of the subjects I took only had two girls in a class of 13, one was 50-50, one had six girls in a class of eight, and one was all girls. The difference in atmosphere in the all-female and majority female classes was palpable. Even the two male teachers of the all-female class said they had never taught a group that made so much progress. Everyone was free to express themselves without being talked over or shamed or shouted down, it wasn't a crime for a girl to be clever, girls helped each other and shared resources. It was competitive but competitive by way of trying to exceed the other girls, not by trying to drag each other down. The male-dominated class was a nightmare; disruptive behaviour and kudos in stupidity. You just had to keep your head down and get on with it. This wasn't a sink estate school, this was one of the best private schools in the country. (I had an assisted place.)

CaveMum · 24/08/2022 13:39

There’s a system used in some schools, though they seem to be growing smaller by the year, called “Diamond”. It’s used in some mixed sex independent schools where some subjects (usually STEM) are taught single sex.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_school

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EsmaCannonball · 24/08/2022 13:56

I've just remembered about several of my friends who went to the local Catholic secondary school. It was divided into a girls' school and a boys' school and, despite being located in one of the most deprived areas of the country, the girls' school in particular had a good educational standard.

When my friends were there, it was decided to merge the girls' and boys' schools into one. Most of my friends were excited (Boys! Young male teachers instead of nuns!) After about three weeks they had completely changed their minds. Lessons were constantly disrupted, the male teachers were dismissive or bullies or just too worn down by the boys' behaviour to be bothered, girls could no longer leave their personal property anywhere without it being stolen or vandalised, and large areas of the school were now no-go because of harassment and violence by the boys.

Whenever single-sex education is discussed on Mumsnet (not necessarily on this board) people will always argue that although single-sex education is better for girls' academically, mixed-sex education is preferable because it prepares them for the real world. It's such a depressing argument that girls' education shouldn't be about flourishing but about becoming inured to the shit male behaviour you'll have to get used to eventually. The focus of the campaigns for woman-only spaces is rightly centred on male violence, but being free of the suppressing presence of the dominant class is bloody blissful and too important to give up, especially as it's rare already.

CaveMum · 24/08/2022 14:37

@EsmaCannonball I had a similar experience. I went to a state run girls secondary in a rough part of Bristol. It wasn’t the best school in the world but they got decent exam results, certainly better than the state boys school up the road.

In their infinite wisdom the local council decided to merge the girls and boys schools together as I went into Y10. It was an unmitigated disaster: they moved us to the boys school site (we had lovely 1920s red brick buildings, theirs was a run down 60s comp); many of the boys teachers remained and made it clear they didn’t like teaching us girls.

A year into the merger the Head, who had been Head of the boy’s school went on long term sick leave and never same back - the head of a local successful school was parachuted in to try and drag things back up.

When it came to our GCSE’s, the teaching had been so woeful we had a 10% pass rate (cohort was about 70). I was one of the lucky ones, I left with 9 A-C GCSEs, and my immediate friendship circle had similar results but the vast majority left with nothing.

A few years after I left the school was closed down. The girl’s school buildings were targeted by arsonists and burned down. The boys/mixed school site has been used for a variety of things including as the set for the TV show “Teachers”!

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TheClogLady · 24/08/2022 17:36

Thank you for this, it has strengthened my resolve in picking a girls high school as first choice for my daughter (application deadline 4 months away!)

single sex ed has never really been on my radar in the past but with all the new social media/online porn pressures on our kids I feel that there is absolutely no reason for my child to ‘get used to the real world’ at the age of 11. Better to put it off another 5 (or 7!) years. She has a big brother so it’s not as if boys won’t exist for the entire period.

I’ve had a good poke round the website and prospectus and language-wise, of our two local girls only options one is frightfully woke (the grammar) and one is rather traditional (referring to girls/young women/daughters etc) so the non grammar is my first choice.

and yes, I will be confirming that ‘girls’ isn’t a verboten word at the open evening next month!

Artichokeleaves · 24/08/2022 21:49

Excellent article, several very, very well made points.

Once a boy enters a girls’ single-sex environment, for the comfort of the boy child, the girl child must learn that her body has nothing to do with her historical oppression – oppression that her grannies have only just dragged her out of, relatively speaking. The girl child must learn the periods she will soon need to manage have nothing to do with her being female or the history of women and women’s historical consignment to the domestic sphere.

Resources created for female humans are not there to affirm male identity choices. That male people and some supporters of male people believe that those resources are theirs to appropriate and use at will, that male wish always must trump female everything, shows exactly why female people still desperately need male-free places to be.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/08/2022 09:31

Fantastic article.

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