Sex and gender

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Mothersformother.com final article regarding La Leche League and the effects of forced language changes regarding“mothers” and “breastfeeding” on the safety of mothers and babies. The impact of erasing women from the discussion about breastfeeding and the need for LLL Leaders to vote out many current Board members. FarewellFarewell

Good article, how can women be supported with breastfeeding when the language is distored away from using words like mother?

I liked the clear message: "Our hope is that La Leche League will return to its roots of helping mothers to breastfeed their babies instead of mixing causes and integrating a secular humanistic belief system."

Thanks for posting, OP. I hope it is widely read.

Interesting article, thanks for posting

Great article. Also great thread title.

99% of this nonsense is sorted if we stick to strong boundaries around the meaning of sex and gender rather than the deliberate conflation that has been happening.

For me, gender is neither here nor there. I couldn't give a flying the degree to which people engage with how their own personalities align with social stereotypes.

However if we are clear about what rights are sex based, what areas of life are sex specific and what spaces need to be sex segregated, then all the rest can be dealt with pretty easily.

Thank you.

I strongly approved of the judgment in that Freddie McConnell case (who wanted to be put down as father rather than mother on a child's birth certificate).

The judge very firmly said that "mother" was not a gendered term in this context - it was quite clearly being used in the strict sense the biological relationship between a parent and a child.

Therefore there was no conflict - someone who "identified as man" and gave birth to a child was still clearly the child's mother. There was no reason that transmen could not be mothers.

Similarly there's no reason transmen or female non-binaries can't have all the other attributes of female people - breasts, pregnancy, whatever.

Actually, never quite clear to me which things they say are "gendered". They don't like "breasts" (which both sexes have anyway), but they're okay with "pregnancy"/"pregnant"? Or is there some more "inclusive" word for that I've missed?

Very good article. It's awful that LLL has decided to destroy itself for the sake of the trans. This deprives so many women and babies of support

I am confused by the ‘…integrating a secular humanistic belief system’. I would have thought trans ideology and the language around it would be the opposite of secular humanism. Humanism is based on science surely?

He tells her he's a woman too he has a ladybrain
He tells her his identity and hers; they are the same
He tells her not to talk about her body; it's not fair
Her body is her privilege his own, a cross to bear

He tells her that she cannot talk or otherwise allude
To what her female body does it's nasty to exclude
He says respect diversity except he would prefer
That she would not point out the ways that he's diverse from her

He tells her that biology does not impact her life
She should still bear his children but she must call him 'wife'
He says that words must all evolve she must learn to make do
And now that woman is his word he's taking 'female' too

He tells her that a woman is whatever he decides
He will not put it into words she must not ask, he chides
He tells her he is more oppressed than she has ever been
He says she must agree with him or else she's being mean

She searches for the words she needs to talk about herself
The billions who exist like her their lives, their rights, their health
Whatever word she chooses now he finds a way to spin it
The conversation carries on but she's no longer in it

Rachel Irischild

based on

He Tells Her by Wendy Cope