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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour Losing Women - Momentum blame Sir Keir

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NancyDrawed · 17/08/2022 18:44

From GB News

gbnews.uk/news/labour-lost-91000-members-and-ended-the-year-with-a-financial-deficit-of-more-than-5-million/353871?fbclid=IwAR17rTixChTjVO1qbPAGmtG5HPY8BRIQUcQ-P-O-TsIGMZ8hxx2qoAAuqhc

Labour lost some 91,000 members in 2021 and ended the year with a financial deficit of more than £5 million, the party’s latest accounts show.

The accounts, published by the Electoral Commission, said Labour’s membership fell from 523,332 at the end of 2020 to 432,213 in a year.

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PomegranateOfPersephone · 18/08/2022 23:19

Well said @MangyInseam

and to be honest if all that Labour has to offer is ID politics as a way to improve life for ordinary people in this country, well, I can only see that it would make things a lot worse.

If Labour can’t offer me left leaning economic policies well I am looking again at the potential pros of traditionally Conservative social policies such as valuing family, community, heritage, culture, things which might bring people together to find what they have in common and work on local solutions to local issues. In a world where corporations are growing more wealthy and powerful than governments I feel like strong real life (not online) local and family connections will give us more meaningful lives than being a unit to consume and be consumed, a lonely individual with ever shifting loose, shallow interactions in the rainbow, glitter “family” of the queer world where we are all irredeemable as oppressors, beyond salvation as oppressed, cancelled as heretics or infidels.

Olderbadger1 · 18/08/2022 23:36

Well that's cheered me up @PomegranateOfPersephone. Given that I'm on my third large glass of a rather fine red, and feeling my massy boosooom heave with the power of the goddess (ok, it's my fourth glass) could I add one possible further option to your list? How's about we all join the feminist revolution? Solidarity, sisterhood, cackles and drizzle-cake recipes.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 18/08/2022 23:50

Drizzle cake sounds lovely Badger, don’t mind if I do. Any more red left? I feel like I have wandered into the Bluestocking…

carefullycourageous · 18/08/2022 23:55

This is the Corbyn unwind with plenty of members Labour didn't really want (IYSWIM) leaving again. Momentum want to stir up crap.

I was pleased to see overall Labour raised £45m to the Tories' £31m.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 18/08/2022 23:55

I'm not a Labour Party member but most often voted Labour for more than 40 years, as the more leftwing or environmentalist parties I would prefer didn't often put up candidates in my constituency.

Never again, while Labour is committed to erasing women as a sex class -- or just too gutless to stand up to crybullies.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/08/2022 08:21

PomegranateOfPersephone · 18/08/2022 21:08

I can’t vote for any of them in good conscience. Doesn’t matter anyway, I live in a very safe seat.

I'm in exactly the same position. On the one hand, it saves me agonising over who to vote for. On the other hand, it's frustrating. My MP is a good constituency MP and as far as I can see doing an effective job on the Labour front bench, but on the issue of identity politics she has adroitly managed to avoid taking any public position at all. Not perhaps very surprising as she has Goldsmiths College in the constituency and she probably can't afford to upset the students, even with a 39000 majority. The student activists and Momentum were at one point threatening to force her through a re-selection, but were fortunately unsuccessful. I dread to think what kind of MP we might end up with if Momentum and Goldsmiths did the choosing.

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