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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Peruvian trans activist arrested for forcing trans people into prostitution in Europe

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 12/08/2022 18:51

A two-time Miss Transgender Peru winner has been arrested in Belgium after reportedly trafficking people into the sex trade, making some of them veritable slaves in Europe’s most famous legal red light districts.

Celeste Rivasplata, 34, is a widely known social media influencer in Peru for having won two national Miss Transgender titles in 2019 and 2021, as well as Miss International Peru that same year. But Rivasplata, a biological male who identifies as a woman, is now facing human trafficking charges after police became aware he was running an international sexual exploitation ring with one dozen victims.

According to La Meuse, Rivasplata would solicit vulnerable trans-identified young people from Peru, offering them a better life in Belgium.

While the exact ages of the victims is unknown, Rivasplata’s father would collect fees from them in Peru prior to their departure to Belgium. Once they arrived, Rivasplata would strip them of their passports and tell them their debt could only be paid through prostitution. The victims were also threatened that their families back in Peru would be harmed if they did not comply.

Rivasplata rented apartments and hotel rooms in 6 cities in Belgium where prostitution had some legal protections, as well as in Utrecht, Netherlands, where he housed the victims, leaving them with nothing more than food. He then placed ads featuring the victims on the internet, including on red light district escorting websites, and handled the bookings. Clients were charged €150 to €300 for “passes” that then gave them access to their chosen victim.

The money Rivasplata collected was apparently laundered using an international wire transfer agency back to Peru, with some administrators being paid a bribe to not log Rivasplata’s identification with every transaction.

Rivasplata was arrested on July 7 after police became aware of the operation and connected him to the trafficking victims through digital means. He was jailed in a women’s holding cell in Berkendael prior to being released without conditions after a €7,000 bail was paid on Wednesday.

Continues: Miss Transgender Peru arrested on human trafficking charges in Belgium

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dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:06

For an added bonus, scroll down from the article to read some pro peado batshittery

Percyprod · 12/08/2022 19:10

What is a ‘transwoman’? Surely you are either a man or a woman? There are two sexes which can’t be changed, that is a fact, not an opinion. You are born one or the other, and that’s what you stay.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 12/08/2022 19:14

Percyprod · 12/08/2022 19:10

What is a ‘transwoman’? Surely you are either a man or a woman? There are two sexes which can’t be changed, that is a fact, not an opinion. You are born one or the other, and that’s what you stay.

You're the first person in the thread to use the term.

I chose "trans activist" to describe this suspected trafficker, because Rivasplata has campaigned for legislative change.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 12/08/2022 19:28

In 2019, Rivasplata was featured on multiple Peruvian television programs after the country introduced gender self-identification laws. In one interview, Rivasplata stated that previous Peruvian policies not allowing him to change his legal markers were unfair because he “felt like a woman” and wanted to be perceived and treated as one.

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ScrollingLeaves · 12/08/2022 19:59

dropthevipers · Today 19:06
For an added bonus, scroll down from the article to read some pro peado batshittery

I saw those.

Sorry to derail but the man who has written a PhD at Manchester University about masturbating to Japanese paedophile cartoons of little boys, is also the subject of another thread. I don’t think it was clear though, as it is in this reddux article that he formerly made paedophile boy magazines specialising on boys harming animals and raping. He says explicitly that man-boy attraction/sex has wrongly been removed from LGBT. Imagine him being at Manchester university.

There is also an article about a sex offender.(including of a very young child as well as a woman) , now self IDed as trans, being housed in a women’s prison. The poor women have launched a petition. That they should have to do so should be considered a crime in itself.

That trafficking story of the your trans women from Peru is sad and horrible. What a nasty piece of work Miss Transgender Peru turned out to be. It is lucky he was caught but those other poor young people must have been through terrible experiences.

NitroNine · 12/08/2022 20:02

While I’m generally - for hopefully-obvious - reasons against it; as we seem unable to escape it; it should be evenly applied.

So if women who harm children are held to be monstrous, unnatural & thus effectively outwith womanhood by virtue of their inhumanity (in a way that male offenders, while they may be referred to as “monsters”, are not removed from the ranks of mankind) - surely the same standard must be applied to trans women? Going beyond the fact the crimes being committed are frequently not those of women (obviously, in this instance, there ARE female traffickers & brothel owners) to that most basic level. An unwomanning, of course, has different consequences depending on one’s sex - and of course, historically, is a mechanism for oppressing certain groups of women (eg C19 French prostitutes).

In comparison to other uses, it seems entirely reasonable to say that there can be crimes that remove you from womanhood as a social construct.

As I said, I find the way womanhood - particularly motherhood - is weaponised in this way deeply wrong; especially when you consider the very different treatment given to men who harm children, particularly the contrast in responses to male family annihilators & [almost invariably mentally ill] women who kill their children. However, given this is the status quo, even application seems only fair; & for trans women, to be unwomanned must have a different meaning - & by extension, different consequences - than it does for a biological woman.

achillestoes · 12/08/2022 20:05

Those poor people. Just kids.

ScrollingLeaves · 12/08/2022 20:06

Percyprod · Today 19:10
What is a ‘transwoman’? Surely you are either a man or a woman? There are two sexes which can’t be changed, that is a fact, not an opinion. You are born one or the other, and that’s what you stay.

Yes, agreed. But unfortunately that’s not what a lot of people in our society including institutions think ( including schools).
Most of the threads on this board are related to concern over this, and trying to affect a change to the cultish madness.

Have I misunderstood your post in thinking you seem not to have realised?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 12/08/2022 20:17

This is actually not a unique incident.

The Brazilian edition of Marie Claire magazine has named a trans-identified male convicted of pimping and accused of facilitating child sexual exploitation as one of the country's top inspirational women's rights activists.

On December 20, Marie Claire Brazil posted a year-end slideshow to its Instagram featuring "7 women making a difference for human rights in Brazil." According to the description in the Portugese-language post, the list was intended to feature female human rights activists, but emphasize those who specifically made an impact on the lives and humanity of other women.

While the list profiles brave female advocates such as Joênia Wapixana – the first Indigenous woman in Brazil to become a lawyer – and Maria da Penha – an abuse survivor who fought to increase legal penalties for domestic violence – one name stands out.

Indianara Siqueira, a biological male prostitute who identifies as a woman, was featured on the list as the magazine's 6th pick.

Between 2007 and 2010, Siqueira served a prison sentence in France after being convicted of aggravated pimping. In addition to his jail time, he was ordered to pay financial compensation to the trafficking victims in the amount of €50,000 (approx. $56,000 USD), but shirked the bill. Following his sentence, he was deported to Brazil and banned from entering French territory.

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According to a PSOL ethics committee testimonial, children were also sexually exploited in the brothel operating out of Siqueira's camp, with "various forms of human rights violations" taking place within the house as per a teenager who filed a legal complaint against Siqueira.

Convicted human trafficker lauded as women's rights campaign

As with the subject of this thread, Siqueira seems to have targeted trans-identifying persons to force into prostitution.

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theclangersarecoming · 13/08/2022 03:00

Will our resident pro-prostitution activist posters be right on the thread to argue, as usual, that prostitution is ackshually so super empowering and young women really should be looking at it as a career option?

(Or is is not so great and empowering if it’s being done to transwomen? I wonder why that might be…?)

Fimofriend · 14/08/2022 15:51

Can't really say that I am surprised. Trans women are not exactly known to be able to accept a "no". They don't seem to understand the concept of consent.

CandyGiveaway · 15/08/2022 04:19

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Abhannmor · 15/08/2022 10:18

Released without bail conditions. That's him gone then.

theclangersarecoming · 15/08/2022 21:41

I see the tumbleweed on this thread blowing past, compared to how super-quick the usual suspects are to pop on and defend prostitution when it’s biological women.

Where, oh where are you, @MargaritaPie and @hhh333hhh, when it’s not the fruity “empowered” student popsies of your imagination getting pimped out…? Do you not care about the transwoman’s right to pimp…?

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