Trans plan for young offenders raises concerns for girls’ safety

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/14eb5dd4-10f6-11ed-b5dc-213f5c972cc4?shareToken=f21503b632170dbeedf3efc645dbd26e

Young offenders aged 10 to 18 who identify as transgender may be placed in the single-sex unit of their “acquired gender”, draft government guidance states.

The Times has seen excerpts from the Youth Custody Service’s draft Transgender Guidance, which is due to be finalised and published this autumn.

It states that staff in the first instance would try to place a trans child in a secure children’s home or a secure training centre rather than a young offender institution, which is normally just for boys. This is because the secure homes and training centres are mixed-gender and would give the child the chance to mix with boys and girls.

If they are placed within a mixed establishment with single-sex units for boys and girls, the trans child could be put “in the unit of the acquired gender” if a risk assessment agrees.

After all the talk from the government this is still happening. It is relentless. Virtually every department is captured. They will need a new ministry in order to roll it back.

A spokesman for the Youth Custody Service said it would be misleading to suggest there was the high potential for trans girls to be placed in female single-sex units. This is because there are only 14 girls in the youth estate, compared with 485 boys, and no trans young offenders.
"It will never happen." Now, where have we heard that before?

If they can run a unit for 14 girls they can run one for trans identifying boys. They need to ask themselves why they don't put the 14 girls in with the boys already? Is it anything to do with their safety and needs? Do these just evaporate when trans is involved? These are very vulnerable girls and this policy must never see the light of day.

Here's a novel idea for policymakers: Girls' Guidance. To explain, it's where you look at your policies and services, and think about what girls need. Clue: they don't need to be support humans.

i have very little faith in case bye case risk assessments, which so far seem to prioritise ideology over women and girls safety.

This happened in America but I fear we would see similar situations arise here:

www.nytimes.com/2022/07/30/nyregion/how-did-a-two-time-killer-get-out-to-be-charged-again-at-age-83.html?referringSource=articleShare

It is relentless. I agree, there needs to be a new ministry with oversight of all such policies, to be able to overturn stonewall policies or similar gender identity policies. With a whistleblower hotline!

So the spokesman says there are currently "no trans young offenders". But the policy then says that if there was, they would not be sent to the young offender institution but instead to a secure children's home or centre that is mixed gender. Is it possible that some young men might think it would be an option to identify into a less difficult environment?

A spokesman for the Youth Custody Service said it would be misleading to suggest there was the high potential for trans girls to be placed in female single-sex units. This is because there are only 14 girls in the youth estate, compared with 485 boys, and no trans young offenders.

But it’s totally irrelevant how many girls are in the youth estate.

They’re planning to inflict the male trans offenders on girls who haven’t committed ANY crimes, but have found themselves in the power of the state.

That would NEVER happen.

Is this regardless of the seriousness of the offence?

They don't run a unit for 14 girls. I work in the secure youth estate. For younger offenders there are mixed facilities. Secure childrens home's usually. Each child has locked bedroom with bathroom and communal spaces are closely monitored by numerous staff and cctv. Children are never left unsupervised

Thank heavens for the Times continuing to report on this stuff

This is not the first foray The Times has made into the safety of children who are in the care of the state eg:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f48f71fa-db90-11ec-bcbd-e35b52e0266c?shareToken=31e0b5f666c88c17cf69ac5c027cb7ef

"Inspectors found that, despite renovations, a bedroom was in a poor state of repair and the recruitment and vetting of staff was unsafe. Poor decision-making by staff meant a child had gone missing for six days. The home has since taken measures to reduce the risk of the child going missing but Ofsted said recruitment procedures “remain a serious concern”. McCoy did not respond to a request for comment.

Those living in care are at risk of exploitation by sex offenders and criminal gangs but Ofsted reports show that staff at some of these homes have failed to assess and minimise these risks.

At one home, staff bought train tickets for a child known to be at high risk of involvement in county lines — in which children are recruited to deal drugs in rural areas. They were also criticised for not being “consistently curious” in finding out where children living at the home were obtaining cannabis despite being in a high-risk area for gangs and the risk of debt bondage.

At another, a child had developed a relationship with someone on social media without staff being aware or carrying out any checks."

@TastefulRainbowUnicorn How are they planning to put them in with non-offending girls? All the girls in these secure units are offenders, that's why they're there. The fact is that all the young offender institutions for girls were closed as the outcomes were so terrible, girls are now given community sentences or in the more severe cases, sent to mixed secure training units or secure children's homes. THIS is where they're planning to send trans girls as far as I can see.

girls are now given community sentences or in the more severe cases, sent to mixed secure training units or secure children's homes. THIS is where they're planning to send trans girls as far as I can see.

Isn't that discriminating against the boys?

Why house boys in a young offenders institution with it's poor conditions and terrible management when they could be in a secure children's home with non-offenders and mixed sex leisure time, like the boys who claim a feminine gender identity get to?

How are they planning to put them in with non-offending girls? All the girls in these secure units are offenders, that's why they're there

It's my understanding these girls get sent to generic children's homes with children who are homeless or otherwise in care, who are not offenders

This must be challenged. Sunlight is needed. Those poor girls.

Katie Dolatowski was 17 when he was convicted of sexually assaulting two little girls.

Barbie Kardashian was 17 when he made threats to kill a social worker.

Denen Anderson was 18 when he was convicted of possessing violent child rape images.

So it's not true to say there are no trans young offenders.