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InterestingArticle · 30/07/2022 17:09

uk.yahoo.com/news/bbc-disappearing-women-gender-quota-154512882.html
Just happened to see this on the yahoo newsfeed. I am not a fan of Yahoo news, but it appears to be sourced from a journalist at the Telegraph.

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InterestingArticle · 30/07/2022 17:11

Basically saying that the BBC is replacing women with men who identify as women in their quota targets for male and female employees.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 30/07/2022 17:17

Not employees, programme guests.

the insider pointed to a host of recent programmes in which women have not been represented

In a Jeremy Vine discussion about women’s sports on BBC Radio 2 in June, the voices on air were four men and three trans people with no women, the insider said.

In another example, two men and two trans women discussed women’s sport in an edition of Radio 4’s Moral Maze last June

The BBC was also forced to apologise for interviewing a transgender athlete who had boasted about knocking women out, in a Radio 4 Today women’s sport segment last month.

InterestingArticle · 30/07/2022 17:24

Ah. Thank you. I made a complete mess of both the title and the content of that post. Not concentrating properly.

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LK1972 · 30/07/2022 17:30

Great article, thank you.

I think it really shows the BBC can't even understand the harm to women when our sex is replaced with 'identifies as', and are just bewildered we're making a fuss Hmm

And Mumsnet deletes us when we correctly sex these contributors in our discussions of their points expressed on BBC, without ANY actual females present, about us!

It's a strange world Wink

altGC · 30/07/2022 19:09

The only reason “transgender” was invented was because the patriarchy needed a woke way to put us back in the kitchen and keep us out of public Life and this is more proof to prove it

OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/07/2022 19:10

It bad enough that women (female ones with vulvas) still don't get 50/50 representation over all but the insidious practice of totally excluding women (female ones with vaginas) when discussing women's issues/rights/sports is infuriating! A man in lipstick is not a bloody expert in being a woman.

ScreechingEchoChamber · 30/07/2022 19:15

www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-idUSKBN1ID03B

'Mexico election body blocks 17 male candidates masquerading as transgender women'

ScreechingEchoChamber · 30/07/2022 19:16

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/28/saudi-arabian-womens-conference-picture_n_3515062.html

'An image of a conference in Saudi Arabia on the topic of “women in society” – with not a single female present - has gone viral.'

ScreechingEchoChamber · 30/07/2022 19:18

defconnews.com/2020/01/22/elizabeth-warren-promises-a-50-transgender-cabinet-if-elected-president/

'Elizabeth Warren says if she’s elected president in 2020 she will make at least half of her cabinet up of women and transgender people.'

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/07/2022 19:26

There was a recent BBC article about an LGBT+ charity who arranged an emergency evacuation of some LGBT+ refugees from Afghanistan.

To make sure no one misinterprets me let me first say that these people were in danger, helping them was a good and laudable thing and I hope this charity can continue to be a lifeline for LGBT+ people at risk in Afghanistan.

This post is about the BBC coverage.

Something that stood out in the reporting was that the BBC chose to interview 2 gay men and a trans woman, so all male.

I don't know how many female people were on the flight that the BBC could have interviewed. Perhaps none. After all, to be at risk because you are publicly known as LGBT+ kind of implies you are allowed out in public. Or perhaps many on the flight were female but the BBC felt the most interesting interviewees were three male people.

I would have liked to see either some female interviewees or if there really were none (or none prepared to speak) some information about why that should be. Given the status of women in Afghanistan it seems important to notice and question when women seem to be missing.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 30/07/2022 19:32

altGC · 30/07/2022 19:09

The only reason “transgender” was invented was because the patriarchy needed a woke way to put us back in the kitchen and keep us out of public Life and this is more proof to prove it

Good point.

MissPollysFitDolly · 30/07/2022 22:26

ScreechingEchoChamber · 30/07/2022 19:16

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/28/saudi-arabian-womens-conference-picture_n_3515062.html

'An image of a conference in Saudi Arabia on the topic of “women in society” – with not a single female present - has gone viral.'

I remember when that came out.

Crazy, only in the Middle East! We all laughed. At least I thought we were all laughing, now it seems Western men were taking notes.

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