WPATH

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I’ve been wondering about WPATH for a while and since news broke that GIDS is closing I’ve been trying to do a bit of digging online to find out more about them.

I read their Standards for Care document (7th edition) and it seems that although they try to present evidence for what they are stating are standards and evidence based practice more often than not they seem to quote papers or studies with poor methodology, small numbers or make statements of fact without offering evidence for it.

There also seems to be some concern about their 8th edition of guidelines due to be issued this year.

What I can’t seem to get to the bottom of is how they came to be considered the experts, who they actually are and what has been happening behind the scenes with regards to policy capture.

I’d be interested to hear if any other vipers have any insights to them.

Isn't Susie Green, CEO of Mermaids and ex-IT manager for a branch of Citizens Advice Bureau, on the board? She was tweeting from a meeting there a few years ago in support of lowering the age limit for getting cross-hormones. This is of course what she decided her 12yo needed and she flew to NY so a doctor there could prescribe for Jackie. In the UK you have to be 16 to get them on the NHS.

Genevieve Gluck wrote this for reduxx a few months ago.

reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborated-with-castration-child-abuse-fetishists/

I'm listening to this now.

It's over an hour long and I can't vouch for accuracy of what's being discussed or the qualifications of the people talking, but I do remember this part. Genevieve Gluck goes briefly through the history of WPATH which was founded in 1979 as the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association, named after an influential doctor in the field who started administering oestrogen and testosterone to patients after WW2. It later renamed itself World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) which makes it sound much more grandiose. Then she turns to this (and I should say it's grim listening):

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4367712-New-WPATH-Guidelines-SOC8

Draft version of eighth edition of the WPATH Standards of Care included this in the contents list:

18. Applicability of the Standards of Care to Eunuchs NEW

This attracted a lot of attention at the time, for this reason, amongst others.

twitter.com/genspect/status/1468207956353331204?s=20&t=MORp8NAAokaVdvPW26jlSA

^Frighteningly, it turns out that WPATH cites a castration fetish site (!) in these new guidelines – where users post sadomasochistic stories with pedophilic themes, as covered in some detail by t.co/CVJZxGEHIi^

Gluck is doing a lot of research into WPATH. It's worth reading everything she's done in them. Chilling

It's the world wide problem of self identification. WPATH, like so many of our own home grown groups and individuals, self identify as experts in child health, welfare, women, biology, science etc and social media gives them a platform for the gullible to follow them.

I think they are largely self proclaimed experts but I also think the concept of idea laundering to manufacture a body of knowledge also applies.

This is a longer video about how the academy was captured and what that means for the future of knowledge and developing ideas. It also helps to explain the lack of critical thinking around gender ideology.

Gasp the link you posted won't play for me, can you tell me what the video was about or direct me to a Google search term so I can find it for myself?

Sorry, it was this:

WhoseBodyIsIt is the channel. The Dark History of "Transgender Medicine", WPATH & Child Castration w/ Genevieve Gluck

That might work better.

Thank you. I opened it in YouTube to find I was already half way through watching it so your link has prompted me to watch the rest.

Thanks. I’ve just been down a rabbit warren about eunuch fetishes thanks to Genvieve Glack but not watched the videos yet. Not enough eye bleach in the world for what I’ve read of what she’s written.

It very much smacks of people declaring themselves as experts and then referencing themselves as experts.

As for how these people link to each other and to certain lifestyle practices seems disturbing to say the least although reading it makes me feel like some sort of conspiracy theorist.

Is all of this harm to so many children really driven by a small number of people (males) with particular proclivities and if so how on earth did we get here?

She did a good online interview with Glinner. Iirc some difficult links to certain individuals at the adult GIDs at the Tavistock

Watching the who's body film and at the point where she describes three academics who've been on the eunuch archives website since the late 90s, have used it for their bodies if research and have given talks at WPATH and who've since added eunuch to the Diagnosis.

That's the eunuch archives where just under a half of the stories are about castration of minors. Worth pointing out that MERMAIDS states on their website that they follow the WPATH standards of care.

Mermaids follow WPATH standards of care. Which has been referring to the eunuch archives. Which originated from use.net where online pedophiles originally operated 20 years ago.

She also describes how WPATH have generated a body of ideas where they only cite each other.

Watching the who's body film and at the point where she describes three academics who've been on the eunuch archives website since the late 90s, have used it for their bodies if research and have given talks at WPATH and who've since added eunuch to the Diagnosis.

That's the eunuch archives where just under a half of the stories are about castration of minors. Worth pointing out that MERMAIDS states on their website that they follow the WPATH standards of care.

Mermaids follow WPATH standards of care. Which has been referring to the eunuch archives. Which originated from use.net where online pedophiles originally operated 20 years ago.

She also describes how WPATH have generated a body of ideas where they only cite each other.

Watching the who's body film and at the point where she describes three academics who've been on the eunuch archives website since the late 90s, have used it for their bodies if research and have given talks at WPATH and who've since added eunuch to the Diagnosis.

That's the eunuch archives where just under a half of the stories are about castration of minors. Worth pointing out that MERMAIDS states on their website that they follow the WPATH standards of care.

Mermaids follow WPATH standards of care. Which has been referring to the eunuch archives. Which originated from use.net where online pedophiles originally operated 20 years ago.

She also describes how WPATH have generated a body of ideas where they only cite each other.

Watching the who's body film and at the point where she describes three academics who've been on the eunuch archives website since the late 90s, have used it for their bodies if research and have given talks at WPATH and who've since added eunuch to the Diagnosis.

That's the eunuch archives where just under a half of the stories are about castration of minors. Worth pointing out that MERMAIDS states on their website that they follow the WPATH standards of care.

Mermaids follow WPATH standards of care. Which has been referring to the eunuch archives. Which originated from use.net where online pedophiles originally operated 20 years ago.

She also describes how WPATH have generated a body of ideas where they only cite each other.

Sorry, mn went wonky !