Sunak would amend the Equality Act

[achillestoes]

Rishi Sunak has been trailing Liz Truss in the Tory leadership battle, and he is now trying to re-invent himself a bit. He has strengthened his positions on sex in the Equality Act meaning biological sex, and specifically said the following about the EA:

“The worst offender in this regard is the 2010 Equality Act, conceived in the dog days of the last Labour government.
“It has been a Trojan horse that has allowed every kind of woke nonsense to permeate public life.”

There is a suggestion that he would ‘review’ the Equality Act. Not sure whether that means he would amend it or repeal it, but obviously we would still have the GRA, which without the Equality Act to alter its meaning, even if slightly, would give the TRAs a boost.

Personally I'm starting to think the "POC gorn maad" complainers had a fucking point

The other problem with the protected characteristic of gender assignment, apart from not explaining what's involved, is that, along with what you would call old school transsexuals being able to present as women at work, it also allows a cross dresser to practice his fetish in public, and be legally protected for doing so.

I know several women who have to put up with this kind of subtle harassment at work.

And I'm not sure how you could ever eliminate it. Other than saying that under no circumstances are you obliged to use preferred pronouns, thereby making it not so much fun.

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"PC"
not POC ......

@Helleofabore It's fair to say "no debate" is now off the table 😀

Kemi showing that she gets it way better than Sunak.

GB News

@GBNEWS
'I don't call it "war on woke", because I think it's far far more serious than that'

Former Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch MP tells GB News using the word 'woke' can trivialise very serious issues.

One of the cleverest aspects of TRAism has been convincing the world that misgendering is comparable to murder. That being misgendered leads to transpeople across the world killing themselves every ten seconds.

The truth is, pronouns are in the eye of the beholder, and anyone who is pronouned in a way they don't like basically needs to come to terms with that, like how people did before about five years ago.
It's not a big deal.

It's amazing how many people were complicit in allowing the idea of 'misgendering to be literal murder' under the guise of being civil.

That he says he would review the EA2010 concerns me and is unnecessary. All that is needed in relation to the EA2010 is clarity on what the protected characteristics of sex and gender reassignment are and that, in particular, the latter does not include gender identity.

The EA2010 is the primary piece of equalities legislation in this country. It brought together all of the previous anti-discrimination legislation developed over the preceding decades in relation to race, sex, disability etc into a single, relatively uniform piece of legislation. It is not something that was put together on the hoof. It enshrines equality of treatment in employment and the provision of goods and services in relation to:
Age
Disability
Marital status
Pregnancy and maternity
Race
Religion of belief
Sexual orientation
Sex
Gender reassignment

I think we need to be really careful not to view the Act as the problem here.

I agree that sunak doesn't know his arse from his elbow on anything other than global economics. Even then, I don't know if he has the British public's best interests at heart.

The best we can expect from him is that he has the sense to put best people into key roles and give them the support to do the right thing.

I haven't been very impressed with the speeches he's made, though. It's as if he's just saying words to keep the plebs happy so he can achieve his aims.

The irony is that many of the people he’s wooing by calling out ‘woke nonsense’ are unlikely ever to vote for a dark-skinned PM

It is not something that was put together on the hoof.

That's not what Trevor Phillips said. He said it was rushed and it was known unresolvable conflicts would arise.

The irony is that many of the people he’s wooing by calling out ‘woke nonsense’ are unlikely ever to vote for a dark-skinned PM

That racism you are seeing in everyone else is a mirror.

to blame the ERA 2010 shows a very limited understanding of the problem space which risks doing more harm than good.

I am delighted that both candidates are addressing these issues so openly and really relieved that Mordaunt didn't get through. I hope Liz wins as I think she will be the safer pair of hands for women and children on this.
Sunak never once raised his head above the parapet until this campaign; Liz did and it seems she was the person who stopped self-id. Boris Johnson was also belatedly trying to roll this back.
I also think Sunak can easily be criticised as too wealthy to understand ordinary people's lives in terms of the next Election.

Has any one heard any reaction from Labour/LibDems on the Tavistock/Cass Review? I think my ex-party will double-down (no idea why except maybe 'follow the money').
This issue has changed my political allegiance from left to right forever. I always valued free speech but now think it crucial. I do not trust Labour with it anymore.

‘The irony is that many of the people he’s wooing by calling out ‘woke nonsense’ are unlikely ever to vote for a dark-skinned PM.’

I really think most people care more about their mortgages, rents, inflation and interest rates than about this.

For fucks sake, why would you even post something like that?

even if I’m wrong, what have I ever done or said to hurt you?

I don't think he has a clue. Truss does from her time at Equalities and has shown her mettle on this issue. Caroline Notes is backing him, imagine if he put her in charge of reforming the Equality Act.
It's the Equality Act that has won our victories in court. The problem is it not being applied correctly because of misinformation from the likes of Stonewall.

I see I was right.

Remarkable.

On this board we have discussed the EA and GRA a lot - and I cannot presume to know the indepth details - either good or bad - of either act. I'm willing to give both Sunak and Trust a bit of leeway in their language as they are putting their arguments to first Conservative voters and also the country.

I am relieved that the topic is attracting so much attention. The conversation is about women's right now - not about being anti-trans - and that is a much more productive area to highlight rights under threat and also how much those values are supported by the general population. For a long time, it felt as though this incredibly small but very, very vocal minority were dominating the debate with their demands of their rights and everybody else was frightened or bullied into silence.

We have, I hope, turned that corner.

One thing that the Conservatives are (generally) quite good at is reading the room. I think they've worked out that this tack will gain them votes.
I don't think racism will play part in this vote. I actually am quite heartened that the Tories find their top two candidates not to be old white men.
The fact that both candidates are explicit around women's issues is very encouraging - I think this is actually very pivotal in halting the slide towards erasure of sex as a legal category and social entity.
Labour are being seriously outgunned on this. But they're going to find it hard to either U-turn or find a more moderate position.

I actually am quite heartened that the Tories find their top two candidates not to be old white men.

I would agree with this completely, and as a labour supporter I really struggle to understand how things have panned out in that way.

But it's hard to see some voters in the former red wall seats ever voting for sunak. I grew up in a comparable area and there's still a lot of tension and casual racism under the surface, and I think many would struggle with the cognitive dissonance

‘But it's hard to see some voters in the former red wall seats ever voting for sunak. I grew up in a comparable area and there's still a lot of tension and casual racism under the surface, and I think many would struggle with the cognitive dissonance.’

Some voters, sure.

But it's hard to see some voters in the former red wall seats ever voting for sunak. I grew up in a comparable area and there's still a lot of tension and casual racism under the surface, and I think many would struggle with the cognitive dissonance

And yet a poll on swing voters and ones who voted Conservative for the first time at the last GE, i.e., those in Red Wall areas, found that Rishi Sunak would be more likely to win a GE than Liz Truss.

Zoot's comment to you was spot on.