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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Urgent: links to research re potential damage from breast binding please?

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54isanopendoor · 29/07/2022 10:47

My Dd is just 15. She has Autism. She has anxiety. She has SPD.
We moved school a year ago (no choice). she has just made a few friends.
ALL are 'trans'... /she is frequently non verbal through stress & 50% attendance.
Her only previous friend was very domineering & has just revealed she lied to Dd about something very important. Dd had had her first big crush on this girl, who has behaved very unkindly, to say the least. Dd is devastated.
So, For many reasons, DD is really vulnerable.

At Christams she told me she was gay (via a Christmas card, her preferred method of comms for 'big stuff' is via text / cards etc as non verbal kicks in)
A few weeks back she said she 'is Trans'. I asked what that meant & she said: 'I am a boy, I've looked it up on Reddit'. I tried to tease out what she meant by that etc but she was all very closed down. She has now told me she wants to bind her breasts. I said that I thought it was a bad idea to try to alter her body whilst it is growing healthily. I talked about clothes to 'hide' her body shape if she felt self conscious but said I'd rather she didn't restrict any part of her body that was growing. She listened but is still adamant she wants to bind. So, I've agreed to help her do some research (her older brother has Autism & we've had a lot of issues & she knows I research important stuff before I decide what to do.

So ... I have Covid. I feel absolutely crap. She wants to do the Research today (the day we'd set aside).

Can anyone please point me to some reputable articles?
If htey are ALL anti binding she will switch off so there needs to be some balance but I guess it's pretty clear from my (long, sorry..) post that I'd rather they supported my POV that binding is a bad idea...

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Manteiga · 29/07/2022 11:12

Transgender Trend provide some references that might be a good starting point:

www.transgendertrend.com/breast-binders-in-uk-schools/

rogdmum · 29/07/2022 11:21

Bayswater also have a page on binding:

www.bayswatersupport.org.uk/breast-binding-self-harm-or-gender-care/

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 29/07/2022 11:52

Rather than binding do you think she might feel comfortable in a sensory T-shirt like one of these? jettproof.co.uk My son has autism and I bought him a full length T-shirt recently after reading about them on gender critical Twitter. The relief in his face was palpable.
The discussion on Twitter was along the lines of so many ASD girls being drawn to binding because the feeling of restriction helps them feel secure, a bit like dogs wearing thunder vests to keep them calm during storms or fireworks. It would hide her body shape a little without being damaging and would be a way to put off the body dysphoria.

NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay · 29/07/2022 11:53

This link to Stats for Gender might be worth a look.

www.statsforgender.org/binding/

54isanopendoor · 29/07/2022 12:35

@FatFilledTrottyPuss thanks - they look expensive but maybe worth it?
has your son found it helpful - do they 'squeeze' you? (dont' look tight enough?)
Dd does wear a soft bra, tight vest, then t shirt then school shirt so she is choosing this effect anyway I think? she also uses a weighted blanket. but yes anything I can do to help which doesnt damage her body is worth a try?

thanks also to @Manteiga @NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay @rogdmum

I think I need to be sure I'm looking at strongly anti research & just a bit of weak pro research as she is very autistic in that she will seize on the 1st article & pronounce it 'gospel' or 'canon' if I'm not careful

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54isanopendoor · 29/07/2022 12:40

We are in Scotland too :(

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Clymene · 29/07/2022 12:49

The only proper research study concluded 90% of women have physical issues.

Hang on - I posted a link on another thread.

Clymene · 29/07/2022 12:50

Here you go:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6298447/

ValancyRedfern · 29/07/2022 13:49

I don't have any advice I'm afraid but wanted to send my support. Your strategy sounds excellent. Hope you feel better soon.

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 29/07/2022 13:52

54isanopendoor · 29/07/2022 12:35

@FatFilledTrottyPuss thanks - they look expensive but maybe worth it?
has your son found it helpful - do they 'squeeze' you? (dont' look tight enough?)
Dd does wear a soft bra, tight vest, then t shirt then school shirt so she is choosing this effect anyway I think? she also uses a weighted blanket. but yes anything I can do to help which doesnt damage her body is worth a try?

thanks also to @Manteiga @NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay @rogdmum

I think I need to be sure I'm looking at strongly anti research & just a bit of weak pro research as she is very autistic in that she will seize on the 1st article & pronounce it 'gospel' or 'canon' if I'm not careful

Sorry that was the first website I came across but you can get them much cheaper, I bought one of these for £22 so much more affordable and Ds loves it. www.sensorysmart.co.uk/sensory-hug-shirt---long-sleeve---in-navy----light-compression-2376-p.asp
Ds is only 13 and incredibly skinny so I don’t know how one of these T-shirts would feel on someone with boobs but i thought it might be worth looking into as an alternative to binders.

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