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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How much less crime there would be a world of all women

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PinkOwlReading · 25/07/2022 00:00

I've just watched the highly recommended and heartbreaking Netflix documentary "The Girl in the Picture" spoiler alert the perpetrator is now on death row. So it got me Googling how many people are on death row in the US. Clearly not all states have the death penalty and the burden of proof for someone to receive that harshest sentence is very high plus appeals all the time etc... so it's a pretty strong indication that these people truly are the worst of humanity. As of 1 Jan 2022 (according to Wikipedia) there are circa 2,500 people on death row in the USA. Guess how may of those are women?

50

Not 500, 50! Less than 1% when obviously women make up 50% of the population. And of those women the majority were convicted of killing their own babies and children or husbands (obviously inexcusable) but in contrast to the men who's lists of victims are often multiple murders, bombings, mass shootings affecting unconnected innocent strangers. I was really shocked by the disparity. Two things strike me about this:-

  1. Men are much more randomly violent and evil than women and what a different world we would like in if we were all women or if we could teach (or the Patriarchy would allow) our boys to be more like women; and
  1. This is why we must preserve the integrity of crime data with true sex data and not blur the lines with "identifying gender" etc...

Anyone else agree this is the starkest comparison of all?

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VanillaImpulse · 27/07/2022 01:05

It's also interesting that many women are in prison because of men! A vast majority have been abused by men so either fight back (murder) or go down the drug addiction route to block out abuse then steal to feed addictions. I'd be interested to see stats on why women are in prisons. Without men I think it would be a lot lower.

Thelnebriati · 27/07/2022 01:12

There are some stats on women in prison; a significant percentage are DV survivors and/or have head injuries. A high percentage are in prison for non violent crimes, and crimes relating to poverty.
There has been talk of reducing the number of women incarcerated, since it also affects their children who end up in care.

www.thejusticegap.com/seven-out-of-10-women-sentenced-to-prison-last-year-committed-non-violent-offences/

(Reasons are not excuses.)

DillonPanthersTexas · 27/07/2022 09:59

VanillaImpulse

And there are many women not in prison because they are way more likely not to receive a custodial sentence for the same crime that a man carried out.

Thelnebriati

I would prefer a more progressive justice system that places emphasis on rehabilitation and the reduction of reoffending rather then pandering to the lock them up brigade for non violent crimes. But this needs to look at everyone who falls victim to poverty/abuse/addiction related offenses, not just with a view to reducing the number of women in prison.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 27/07/2022 10:25

DillonPanthersTexas · 27/07/2022 09:59

VanillaImpulse

And there are many women not in prison because they are way more likely not to receive a custodial sentence for the same crime that a man carried out.

Thelnebriati

I would prefer a more progressive justice system that places emphasis on rehabilitation and the reduction of reoffending rather then pandering to the lock them up brigade for non violent crimes. But this needs to look at everyone who falls victim to poverty/abuse/addiction related offenses, not just with a view to reducing the number of women in prison.

Are you speaking from a UK or US perspective?

It's a mixed picture here as women are more likely to end up imprisoned for first time offence or low-level offences because they can't afford the option of a fine. iirc, they're more likely to receive more severe sentences for some offences as well.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-get-tougher-sentences-than-men-cjpdx65q7

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/571737/associations-between-sex-and-sentencing-to-prison.pdf

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