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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anybody reading the Sex Matters Report? (Maya Forstater)

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endofthelinefinally · 19/07/2022 14:38

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/why-do-single-sex-services-matter/

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SpindleInTheWind · 19/07/2022 14:56

Yes, just started going through it. It’ll take a while though.

DameMaud · 19/07/2022 15:04

Hi,
De-lurking here.
I can't access link (parental controls/'sex'😆 matters I presume as I can never open any of the links to them).
If anyone is inclined to outline some points from it on this thread- that would be appreciated - no worries if not. I realise that's a big ask

PearlClutch · 19/07/2022 15:11

There are three versions, DameMaud - a short, medium and full report! Summary from the shortest:

  1. Single-sex services matter to women
The most important reason given for wanting single-sex services was privacy and dignity (98% of respondents). Nine out of ten respondents to our survey were women, but people of both sexes said they prefer single-sex privacy in everyday situations such as changing, washing and using the toilet, and in hospital wards. Almost half the women who responded had experienced sexual assault in their lifetime, and this made privacy and security in everyday single-sex services particularly important for them.
  1. Losing single-sex services harms inclusion
Many women said they self-exclude from services which are no longer provided as single-sex or separate-sex. 61% of respondents said they had already experienced male and female facilities being replaced by “gender-neutral” facilities. Many respondents clarified that sex means biological sex, not gender identity. 45% had experienced “trans-inclusive” rules that allow males to use women’s services.
  1. Guidance is needed to give everyone confidence
When we asked where people were most concerned about losing singlesex services, the top two answers were hospital wards and women’s services, followed by public toilets and schools, colleges and universities. 95% of respondents agreed that the Equality and Human Rights Commission should provide guidance for service providers to help them follow the law.
Clovefeld · 19/07/2022 15:23

A survey on welovebananas.co.uk has concluded that 98% of Britons think that bananas are the best fruit.

Notmanybroadbeans · 19/07/2022 15:26

Clovefeld · 19/07/2022 15:23

A survey on welovebananas.co.uk has concluded that 98% of Britons think that bananas are the best fruit.

It was conducted by YouGov.

ZandathePanda · 19/07/2022 15:27

Yougov are not bananas

PearlClutch · 19/07/2022 15:28

Actually it was conducted by SexMatters, although yougov reported on it.

Notmanybroadbeans · 19/07/2022 15:37

PearlClutch · 19/07/2022 15:28

Actually it was conducted by SexMatters, although yougov reported on it.

Apologies, you are quite right.

DameMaud · 19/07/2022 16:10

Thank you so much Pearlclutch!

DameMaud · 19/07/2022 16:32

Can't get into their website either. Tried to find it on yougov website and yougov Twitter and no luck there either!
Curious to know more background- who the survey was of/numbers etc.
Looks like a different outcome to similar ones direct from yougov surveys, but not far off the recent Scottish self ID one.
Is it only available on sex matters website?

DameMaud · 19/07/2022 16:35

Managed to get more info in sex matters Twitter. Thanks again Pearlclutch

TheBiologyStupid · 19/07/2022 17:10

DameMaud · 19/07/2022 16:32

Can't get into their website either. Tried to find it on yougov website and yougov Twitter and no luck there either!
Curious to know more background- who the survey was of/numbers etc.
Looks like a different outcome to similar ones direct from yougov surveys, but not far off the recent Scottish self ID one.
Is it only available on sex matters website?

According to the SexMatters website:

More about the survey: The survey was designed to collect qualitative experiences and perspectives from people who value single sex services. It was hosted on Sex Matters’ website from 12 to 21 February 2022 and promoted on social media. It received 7,062 responses, and 97% of the people who responded stated that single-sex services were important to them. We analysed in detail the responses from people in the UK who said single sex services are important to them. There were 10 times as many UK women (5,559) as men (554).

It is not a representative survey, although, as we set out in the report our findings chime with what is found in representative surveys, which is that the majority of people prefer separate sex facilities for washing, changing and using the toilet, and do not expect access to these to be through gender self-identification.

DameMaud · 19/07/2022 17:20

TheBiologyStupid · 19/07/2022 17:10

According to the SexMatters website:

More about the survey: The survey was designed to collect qualitative experiences and perspectives from people who value single sex services. It was hosted on Sex Matters’ website from 12 to 21 February 2022 and promoted on social media. It received 7,062 responses, and 97% of the people who responded stated that single-sex services were important to them. We analysed in detail the responses from people in the UK who said single sex services are important to them. There were 10 times as many UK women (5,559) as men (554).

It is not a representative survey, although, as we set out in the report our findings chime with what is found in representative surveys, which is that the majority of people prefer separate sex facilities for washing, changing and using the toilet, and do not expect access to these to be through gender self-identification.

Thanks for the further info, Biology.
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