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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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darcyesque · 12/06/2022 12:24

Just a quick question really. Has everyone given up on them reporting this issue accurately? Does affect your trust in the BBC generally? It bothers me that they can't or won't get this right.

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WallaceinAnderland · 12/06/2022 12:46

Which issue?

WarriorN · 12/06/2022 13:08

No because I happen to know bbc reporters/ employees who are trying to make changes.

The problem is that stonewall got there first.

As demonstrated by the bbc radio documentary on stonewall - so I do listen bit you've got to listen hard and weigh up bias.

TheBiologyStupid · 12/06/2022 13:31

Assuming WarriorN has correctly identified the issue you mean OP, the BBC is s-l-o-w-l-y getting there - the Nolan Investigates series was excellent (but SHOULD have been broadcast on Radio 4) and Emma Barnett has conducted some pretty good interviews on Woman's Hour.

Artichokeleaves · 12/06/2022 13:51

The BBC's main problem is that it has an unusually high percentage of TQ+ employees, and those employees get highly upset at any hint of anything that questions, or represents beliefs of anything other than, the One True Faith. As the two jounos who have left the Guardian in a very loud, public tantrum, to some even just mentioning anything off script in passing, no matter how carefully done, is intolerable heresy.

However I have little patience with the BBC on this as they are taking public taxes and on a brief of impartiality and representation of everyone and everything, not just the bits that they like and which don't make their staff kick off. They need to be more like Netflix and start being clear: if you cannot tolerate diversity and range of opinions then this isn't the right workplace for you. Currently when they come out with that awful ad about 'BBC, it's for everyone' I shout back at the tv about 'but not if you're female or homosexual and want equality'.

BootsAndRoots · 12/06/2022 13:56

The issue of councils' recycling records is important, I haven't given up hope that the BBC can still report on this issue accurately.

Djkonda · 12/06/2022 13:57

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SpindleSheWrote · 12/06/2022 14:07

WallaceinAnderland · 12/06/2022 12:46

Which issue?

Sex and gender discussions?

(This is the Feminism: Sex and Gender Discussions board.)

WallaceinAnderland · 12/06/2022 14:13

SpindleSheWrote · 12/06/2022 14:07

Sex and gender discussions?

(This is the Feminism: Sex and Gender Discussions board.)

There are a lot of aspects for this subject. Perhaps OP will clarify in time.

SpindleSheWrote · 12/06/2022 14:17

I know that Peter Hitchens is a bit barking, but his article today also looks at the BBC's so-called 'impartiality', although through a different lens.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10907457/PETER-HITCHENS-Biased-BBC-says-dope-legal-cocaines-joke-pay-it.html

He complained about the BBC allowing Will Self to have the opportunity to say that marijuana should be legalised without arranging for the opposite argument to be aired at some point, given that this is a significant issue for the UK. The response was that basically that it was up to the BBC what was important or not, and if they don't think it matters then they don't have to give balance.

I have got used to stupid responses from the complaints people. But the answer I got was so ridiculous, it made me laugh out loud. They said: 'While we accept that the drugs issue is of course capable of causing political or societal controversy, we do not agree that it is currently a 'major matter' as defined in our editorial guidelines.'

Like I said I've got no time for Hitchens, and disagree with him on most things, but this is a fascinating glimpse into how the BBC is gaming its own editorial policy.

CrossPurposes · 12/06/2022 14:22

Rather than pointing just at the BBC, I think the mainstream broadcast media is under the thumb. After all it was ITV (News) who devoted a significant amount of biased opinion in a headline slot with their Emily Bridges interview.

KatVonlabonk · 12/06/2022 14:26

There's some great journalists there who've stuck their neck out but they certainly should never have employed Ben Hunte.

I think they definitely lean more TRA side but TRAs think the BBC is transphobic anyway.

Maybe if both sides hate you, you ARE impartial?

SpindleSheWrote · 12/06/2022 14:31

CrossPurposes · 12/06/2022 14:22

Rather than pointing just at the BBC, I think the mainstream broadcast media is under the thumb. After all it was ITV (News) who devoted a significant amount of biased opinion in a headline slot with their Emily Bridges interview.

It was crap, yes: but I wasn't forced to pay for it.

darcyesque · 12/06/2022 14:41

I mean the whole wide sex and gender issue. There are so many different aspects. Some are covered badly by the BBC, most of them they don't bother with at all.

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Floisme · 12/06/2022 14:43

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If it's the same interview I heard, Emma asked Maya some tough questions. But that's her job.

darcyesque · 12/06/2022 14:44

Disclosure, I don't think they earn the licence fee on this issue alone. If they self funded then we could take our business elsewhere. But they take public money to push a one-sided view.

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Snugglepumpkin · 12/06/2022 14:56

Long since given up on the corrupt BBC.

I watch no programmes they make, don't use their radio stations or whatever TRA nonsense they put on their site, no longer pay for a TV licence because I won't support such an anti women organisation & have no interest in such an irrelevant outdated broadcaster.

The BBC have made themselves one of those 'olden days' things old people from the 80s remember, like landlines with rotary dial corded telephones that my son has heard of in passing but thinks have nothing to do with younger people.

dropthevipers · 12/06/2022 14:56

KatVonlabonk · 12/06/2022 14:26

There's some great journalists there who've stuck their neck out but they certainly should never have employed Ben Hunte.

I think they definitely lean more TRA side but TRAs think the BBC is transphobic anyway.

Maybe if both sides hate you, you ARE impartial?

Er, no. The Koolaid gang regard anything other than utterly craven capitulation to the TWAW mantra as transphobia, so them frothing about the BBC, or the Graun is proof positive of nothing except their batshit mentalism.

sweetgrapes · 12/06/2022 15:04

BBC... has an unusually high percentage of TQ+ employees so straight employees then?

Abitofalark · 12/06/2022 15:20

It's always helpful to specify the topic of the thread - no one knows what is in the thread starter's mind.

The BBC is a disgrace and especially Woman's Hour, which is almost totally ignoring ongoing issues and developments re gender identity affecting women's rights, which are being discussed daily elsewhere in the media, in favour of their own agenda and chasing sensational events such as court cases in New York or Washington or political dramas re Whitehall during the pandemic. Emma Barnett is the pits for this and seems to get a pass with some for having done one or two interviews while failing to bother with most of everything else.

Musomama1 · 12/06/2022 15:35

Years ago there was a great exploratory doc with Martina Navratilova looking at reasons for rise in transgenderism, particularly young people. I knew nothing about the issue and it was very reasonable and enlightening, it would be screamed down now.

Having said that, a BBC producer on twitter was discussing wanting to do a GC doc with some of the leading voices including JKR. I watch with interest at any development.

darcyesque · 12/06/2022 15:56

Abitofalark, sorry I thought just posting on this particular board would be explanation. I agree with you about the BBC

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EdithStourton · 12/06/2022 16:05

Having an impartial public broadcaster is very important.

The BBC is not currently filling this slot. Not just on sex and gender (its grasp of rural affairs is crap as well).

IamSarah · 12/06/2022 16:34

I was interviewed by a sympathetic BBC journalist recently, they definitely exist.

(Interview hasn't been aired yet, so I guess will need to reserve judgment until I've seen the whole thing!)

Abitofalark · 12/06/2022 16:39

darcyesque · 12/06/2022 15:56

Abitofalark, sorry I thought just posting on this particular board would be explanation. I agree with you about the BBC

Not to worry. I am sure many people make the same assumption.

WarriorN · 12/06/2022 17:00

I actually want EB to grill guests.

She doesn't grill the TRAs as much as they flounce. That shows. I appreciate all the Feminists she's spoken to standing their ground and being REALLY sane.

She also managed to repeat "your penis" ALOT when interviewing grace laverly which stood out..

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