What is this supposed to mean?

[beastlyslumber]

Found in women's toilets. What does it mean? Are they campaigning for women to stop sexually harrassing men? I don't get it.

No. It means men sexually harass other men and as a woman you are supposed to stop it.

You found that in women's toilets?

A notice that saying or thinking that rape sexual assault is mostly a female issue is erasing men who have experienced the same?

FFS!

That's tantamount to telling any woman reading it that she needs to reframe her trauma, be educated about her bias. Where have we heard that before?

Oh! If course... Scotland, home of the emboldened!

It's this:

www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/yourvoice/campaigns/noexcuse

The whole campaign is about tackling sexual violence, harassment, domestic abuse - what would traditionally have been called male violence against women and girls. But the modern use of language has done a decent job of obscuring what it is they intend to tackle.

This particular poster seems to be about recognising that sexual violence can happen to men, too. Presumably usually perpetrated by other men. I guess this poster is asking women to stop minimising sexual assault on men by saying that it doesn't happen. I wonder how the Student Union identified that as a particular problem for men?

Yeah, in the women's loos. There was no other notice in there about helplines for women or anything like that - literally just that one notice about "erasing men". I did feel a bit insulted by it, tbh.

Madness. And one of the Rules of Misogyny, if I remember aright.

I think it’s part of a wider campaign across Edinburgh Uni to try to address sexual harassment and assault. I do agree that the placement of this one in the women’s toilets is a bit off, but I don’t imagine it’s targeted at anyone in particular.

Edinburgh Uni does have a pretty bad track record for scolding women in their own toilets; there were the signs that said something to the effect of: “if you think that maybe someone is in your loos when they shouldn’t be, them you should mind your own business, bigot.” Not in the Men’s, mind…

What women say that men don't experience sexual harassment or abuse? I've never heard a woman say that. I'm not sure why we need to be "educated" on that?

EUSA is a nightmare through and through. Also I really don’t think that women are minimising sexual assault on men.

Okay, maybe there are other notices - I just happened to be in the loo with that one, and it annoyed/confused me!

beastlyslumber in case I came across that way, just want to say that I don’t think you’re at all unreasonable to be annoyed by it!

Women are no worse off than men and should stop whingeing and talking about women's rights?
Edinburgh Uni is known for this kind of thing.

Well quite. I'd like to see their workings for how they decided this was an important topic to run up some posters for and stick in the women's loos. How do they know that women deny men's experience of sexual assault? Is this something that other men do too, or not? What evidence do they have that this is an important campaign strategy, and how will they know if it's been effective?

Edinburgh. That’s where Magdalen Berns was bullied for speaking the truth.

Right, so the message is that the important thing for women to do is to centre men's experiences of sexual harassment, rather than women centring women's experiences of harassment.

What's next? Edin Uni SA gets women lined up to apologise for any time they have spent thinking about issues women face, as that is valuable time that could have been spent centring men? The session finishing with women chanting, ' I only matter in relation to men! I only matter in relation to men!'

You didn't come across that way at all :)

Male supremacism, basically.

Which is exactly what any woman wants to be thinking about when she's gone to the loo.

Don't forget to think about men's feelings while you have a tinkle ladies. I'd have removed the sign and destroyed it. Completely irrelevent in women's toilets.

It's the sexual harassment version of 'when is it international men's day?'

I'd be off out to pick up a Sharpie

I was just so confused. If I'd had a sharpie with me, I would only have written ??? across it. Couldn't peel it off because it was stuck to the sink, under the mirror.

Shouldn’t it be in the men’s?