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Interesting take from Sunday Times on Gervais/Netflix

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McDuffy · 05/06/2022 07:16

I've enjoyed Josh Glancy's columns before but can't remember him writing on this subject.

I showed the Gervais clip to a school dad at a jubilee party yesterday after he told me that Stonewall were a disgrace and started on about queer theory, thought he was a safe bet Smile

Article:

Don’t be offended, but we may have passed peak outrage

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d97f7738-e424-11ec-a6dd-97fa9f1901cf?shareToken=ef1b20b8aaa56ae2dee2b143267da95e

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ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 05/06/2022 17:58

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/06/2022 11:26

"The anxieties of spiralling costs at home and the horrors of Putin’s war machine abroad hopefully make ruining people’s lives over dumb cultural solecisms seem appropriately petty."

This part chimes with me. I could hear my grandmother in my head, saying 'What he/she needs is some real problems to deal with!' in an exasperated tone, whenever she was told of someone fretting over something - well, over something petty.

I'm sure that thought could be gussied up by talking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs or 'luxury beliefs', but I think my gran cut to the chase there.

I could hear my grandmother in my head, saying 'What he/she needs is some real problems to deal with!' in an exasperated tone, whenever she was told of someone fretting over something - well, over something petty. I'm sure that thought could be gussied up by talking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs or 'luxury beliefs', but I think my gran cut to the chase there.

Go Grandma! She was so right.

MangyInseam · 05/06/2022 20:44

it's a bit of a generalization, but overall I think there may be something of a difference, before this issue cropped up, between a lot of the men and women who have spoken up.

Overall, I think many of the women, people like JKR, were already pervived as staunch progressives, the kind of people who would of course speak up against another public figure who printed or said something homophobic or racist.

So when they didn't toe the line, it was seen as a betrayal, and also a threat.

Some of the men I think that's been less true. Poeple like Douglas Murray already say themselves as conservatves, or as being out of step in some sense with modern liberal progressivism. It would be difficult to make them feel badly for being ejected from the people who think the right things, as they already know those people hate them.

Maybe that's a feature of the fact that women are more likely to be progressives, or they are more likely to try and be agreeable and conciliatory? Whereas most of those men, you know damn well they don't care what they are called or that someone thinks they are mean. Bullies always try and bully those they think might cave.

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