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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Michael Peterson/“The Staircase”

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Miscfeminista · 01/06/2022 00:41

I recently saw a video on This Morning about this guy

and I think I may have seen a title somewhere before so I started watching”The Staircase”docu series on Netflix(almost done)just because it was first available stuff to watch and well, I got randomly curious…so far I am just not convinced he’s innocent. Even the owl theory does not entirely make sense however”convenient”it may seem.

And then there was a video of his son supposedly talking how he actually finds his dad may have been the murderer all along(or along those lines):

He also mentions he’s recovering addict which could go both ways-they’re either very blunt or could rant”irresponsibly”(I truly do not mean to offend but what I noticed about few people that were long term addicts was that they didn’t pay a lot of attention to what they’re saying or whether it could be true or not or they’d deliberately lie seemingly very easily)but the fact that Kathleen’s birth daughter and Kathleen’s sisters are convinced she was murdered, as well as their neighbour friend(very similar to both his wives in more than one way too)dying very similar death, after which Peterson adopted her(neighbour’s)daughters…I mean I just have too many doubts to see this man as innocent.

Still I am trying to understand how it works-could that guy have killed these women and still grieve to some extent? We often take it as black and white, cold hearted murderer or innocent but could it be this guy was so convoluted that he made the story work for him and continue his life without much regret? Could he have actually been observing his lawyers and kids fight for him while he knew the truth?

I noticed her sisters read his books and found references to his bisexuality as well as to his possible killing tendencies.

The part that makes this for feminist discussion IMO is his hardcore porn use and how it may have related to him murdering as another sexual outlet. I remember reading on another occasion that men who murder might get aroused by the act itself without necessarily doing anything sexual at the same time. It makes me wonder if he’s another low key Ted Bundy.

Have any of you digested this whole story?

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Miscfeminista · 01/06/2022 17:29

She doesn't talk about Michael but the similarities are striking

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Miscfeminista · 01/06/2022 17:29

SammyScrounge · 01/06/2022 16:15

To paraphrase:

To lose one lady may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two may be seen as murderous.

Yikes

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shinynewapple22 · 01/06/2022 17:33

Oh! We've just started watching this (on Sky I think). I had no idea it was based on a true story .

Miscfeminista · 01/06/2022 17:41

Yikes. His son has some issues that's for sure.

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Miscfeminista · 03/06/2022 19:56

Another Todd confession session??

The part where he says"Kathleen did the worst moral crime imo she stole my mum's husband"eeeeeerrrr you said he packed his bags and moved in with Kathleen down the street? I would say that's worse than"what Kathleen did" 😶

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toastfairy · 04/06/2022 00:24

aweegc · 01/06/2022 08:35

I will have a look at this documentary later. And look out for it by Laura Richards' Crime Analyst podcast as she's great at taking these thing apart and centering the victim(s).

However, I'm wondering why the reference to bisexuality. It's always brought up as an indication that someone is a) messed up b) confused c) suspicious in some way or d) depraved in some way. I'm not saying you think that, more wondering what it's relevance here is. Is there actually any connection between him being attracted to both sexes and to him being suspected of murdering his wives? Like was he deeply ashamed of it and his wives found out before their deaths?

It's a long time since I watched but iirc it was the fact that he regularly had sex with other people (which he said his dead wife had been fine with) that was the more articular source of shadiness rather than just that the other people he slept with were men.

Personally I 'bought' the accidental death sometimes look pretty damn violent and the police got it wrong thesis. Plausible, I wouldn't say I certain he's innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt but certainly I would have enough doubt in the case against him to acquit if my opinion mattered.

Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 01:54

Yeah according to his son Todd in video above, he cheated on his mom(1st mom)within month of their marriage, supposedly also with a guy according to his uncle(MPs brother). History of cheating. Definitely doesn’t depict him as a nice family guy

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Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 01:55

*lol meant 1st wife but well both is accurate

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DuckDuckNo · 04/06/2022 10:03

He's guilty.

Kathleen was the main breadwinner while Michael dabbled in his writing. They had a lavish lifestyle which Kathleen paid for, while Michael spent money on male escorts. Kathleen was in danger of being made redundant at work so the money was in danger of stopping - but of course she had a generous life insurance policy..

And the earlier lady who "fell down the stairs" - after her husband died, he left her a sizable sum as life insurance payout. Guess who took care of that money for her? Michael Peterson did.

I think both were opportunistic crimes motivated by money. Maybe Kathleen found out about the boy toys and threatened to stop supporting Michael financially. Maybe Liz asked Michael where the money went.

But above all: There was no owl!!!

Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 17:24

"I think both were opportunistic crimes motivated by money. Maybe Kathleen found out about the boy toys and threatened to stop supporting Michael financially. Maybe Liz asked Michael where the money went.

But above all: There was no owl!!!"

Gosh this, absolutley. On top of that, his 1st wife died recently(they got back together at some point)and again, insurance coming in play(see Todd/his son 1st video on this thread)

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DuckDuckNo · 05/06/2022 17:13

Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 17:24

"I think both were opportunistic crimes motivated by money. Maybe Kathleen found out about the boy toys and threatened to stop supporting Michael financially. Maybe Liz asked Michael where the money went.

But above all: There was no owl!!!"

Gosh this, absolutley. On top of that, his 1st wife died recently(they got back together at some point)and again, insurance coming in play(see Todd/his son 1st video on this thread)

Yes. Patty died while Michael was with him apparently and he never called an ambulance?

Miscfeminista · 05/06/2022 19:12

@DuckDuckNo it appears so-the way I got it she had a heart attack or started feeling unwell and then his dad waited for his son Todd to come around. While Todd was calling 911 she died. After that MP took all her stuff and tried to whitdraw money from her insurance account(which is joint account with Todd)

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