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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sunday Times letters page: impact of trans issues on teaching

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ResisterRex · 29/05/2022 06:19

In today's Sunday Times:

Teaching is being hollowed out by the trans wars

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d0edcf6e-dcf6-11ec-a8e5-0e2d1d181260?shareToken=22f33b6e1ea7000aff74376ce7ca0282

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mrshoho · 29/05/2022 08:24

The first lesson to explain menstruation in the second level of the national resource, titled Relationships and Sexual Health and Parenting (available for anyone to read online), states as a conclusion that: “It’s also important to remember that not all girls have periods. Every girl is different and unique.” That is dangerously misleading. There is no following guidance that girls should see their GP if they have not had their period by age 16 or 17.

This is so out if order. Educating girls to believe it is normal to not have periods. Enough of these lies now.

Whatwouldscullydo · 29/05/2022 10:03

Thos shows how ots all gone full circle. How people argue about left wing and right wing not realising the end result is the same.

For years women and girls were kept under control by being kept ignorent about their bodies. Impact wasn't the samaritans set up because a teenage girl killed herself after starting her period and having no idea what was happening to her. The whole reason rse is taught I'm schools is to make sure kids know this stuff and to help keep them safe.

Now women and girls are in the exact same situation. Not being allowed to know what happens to them and their bodies and being placed in danger because they may well need ti see a dr as opposed to just assuming they are a person who doesn't get periods.

What's the difference really when you think about it? Besides having to be happy about how inclusive you are being ?

Hoardasurass · 29/05/2022 10:07

Unfortunately in Scotland they start teaching gender identity at age 4 by order of the SNP/GREEN government

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/05/2022 10:15

I found this but that doesn't have the implied level of detail nor that phrase about girls. If anyone can find that phrase, I welcome a pointer to it.

“It’s also important to remember that not all girls have periods. Every girl is different and unique.”

www.nhsggc.org.uk/media/260846/rshp-home-school-activities_second-level.pdf

drhf · 29/05/2022 10:21

rshp.scot/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Part-2.-My-body-is-changing-Activity-plan_2.2020.pdf
Activity no. 8.: "It’s also important to remember that not all girls have periods. Every girl is different and unique!"

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/05/2022 10:26

drhf · 29/05/2022 10:21

rshp.scot/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Part-2.-My-body-is-changing-Activity-plan_2.2020.pdf
Activity no. 8.: "It’s also important to remember that not all girls have periods. Every girl is different and unique!"

Thank you, I knew I was looking with my eyes closed.

NecessaryScene · 29/05/2022 10:26

I can't find that either.

The linked YouTube videos about menstruation are American, from 2018, and religiously avoid sex, using "people with uteruses" etc.

But on the other hand the "KidsHealth" page is clear and sex-based.

One question a girl will have is: When will I get my first period? This usually happens about 2 years after her breasts start to develop. The menstrual (say: MEN-strul) period, or monthly cycle, is when blood is released through the vagina. That may sound alarming, but it's normal and it signals that a girl is growing up and her body is preparing so that she can have a baby someday.

The contrast between the two sets of resources is stark. One is clearly answering questions, the other is trying to avoid answering them.

drhf · 29/05/2022 10:38

The same statement is also on slide 22 of the accompanying presentation: rshp.scot/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/My-Body-Part-2-My-body-is-changing_2.2020-June-2020.pptx
As noted above, primary amenorrhea (no period by the age of 15) should be investigated.

The RSHP activities also refer to boys developing breasts ("Breasts get bigger and rounder as they grow... Boys can sometimes have growth in their breast area too."). Unlike the misleading advice about amenorrhea, the advice about gynaecomastia is unobjectionable. This is quite common in teenage males and does not usually need to be investigated - www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/mens-health/what-is-gynaecomastia/ .

It's interesting how often it's women and girls, not men and boys, who are disadvantaged by woolly, confusing or dogma-driven medical misinformation.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/05/2022 10:41

It's interesting how often it's women and girls, not men and boys, who are disadvantaged by woolly, confusing or dogma-driven medical misinformation.

It's very disheartening to see time and again how little women and girls matter. How it's women who have to make all of the accommodations from physical to emotional and (here) intellectual to cope with all of this.

mrshoho · 29/05/2022 13:42

Whatwouldscullydo · 29/05/2022 10:03

Thos shows how ots all gone full circle. How people argue about left wing and right wing not realising the end result is the same.

For years women and girls were kept under control by being kept ignorent about their bodies. Impact wasn't the samaritans set up because a teenage girl killed herself after starting her period and having no idea what was happening to her. The whole reason rse is taught I'm schools is to make sure kids know this stuff and to help keep them safe.

Now women and girls are in the exact same situation. Not being allowed to know what happens to them and their bodies and being placed in danger because they may well need ti see a dr as opposed to just assuming they are a person who doesn't get periods.

What's the difference really when you think about it? Besides having to be happy about how inclusive you are being ?

If we don't put a stop to it women will end up back in the dark ages having to rely on handed down information, experience and help from real women. When you read what student midwives are being taught and also young children being lied to it is horrific.

Whatwouldscullydo · 29/05/2022 15:37

mrshoho · 29/05/2022 13:42

If we don't put a stop to it women will end up back in the dark ages having to rely on handed down information, experience and help from real women. When you read what student midwives are being taught and also young children being lied to it is horrific.

Yes the only reason anyone can do this is because someone else somewhere along the line takes on the " bad guy" role.

When we are dead this whole next generation is fucked

ZandathePanda · 29/05/2022 18:41

I wasn’t religious but I would be praying that I would be one of those girls who didn’t bleed every month at that age, who wouldn’t?

tackytriceratops · 29/05/2022 19:01

I didn't start till I was 16. V misleading

tackytriceratops · 29/05/2022 19:02

I do wonder what the bumpf on menopause says?! Schools are now trying to introduce this. Bet they don't mention "some boys will experience menopause if they've been to the Tavistock..."

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