The demise of Stonewall

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Ok, crystal ball time. How long do you think before Stonewall is utterly discredited and regarded as a not particularly funny laughing stock?

Surely it already is?

For those of us who have been paying attention, yes. But their is still some way to go before they become a byword for batshit mentalism in the general populace.

Now.

Oh you mean out there..in the actual real world. Erm I'm going for another 23 weeks and 3 days from now. Let me know on 7th November if I'm right!I

It would be nice if I was wrong and it had happened before then, but I fear I'll still be wrong because the majority still won't have got it!

Actually whenever Allison's tribunal judgement is released. Although Maya's will drop first which should help a few more people see the sunshine! And then I would hope AB's pulls the rest into the light.

I'm a pessimist and cynical. They'll probably start helping detransitioners. They will cynically go where the money is and they'll probably never be held to account. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I've lost a lot of faith in the charity world over the last few years seeing how this has played itself out. Nancy will just move on to another charity. It seems a small incestuous world.

I am sorry for the wrong turning taken by Stonewall and the loss of its mission. It served many fine purposes and had a fine history and legacy before all of this.

Its time has passed but not everybody realises that as yet so we have to be vigilant.

[A] black woman queuing to vote in S Africa's 1st free election who, on being told by John Humphreys on…BBCr4today of a bombing in Jo'burg, said "The dying snake always wriggles", which great image Mr H repeated"

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At the same time, we need to offer people golden bridges away from the dangerous territories in which they find themselves. They have to be able to set aside their fears and take the bridge. We need them to cross the bridge because it will take all of our collective efforts to slow the progression towards the authoritarianism that they have supported. A shift towards totalitarianism that has established itself as vade mecum and fellow traveller in all of this strategizing in the shadows and out of public scrutiny.

Even more sadly, we would lose no notable policymakers, thinkers, or writers if Stonewall were to fall. However, courtesy of Stonewall law as they would wish it to be, we were losing policymakers, thinkers, artists, writers, and many admirable people from the public sphere.

Social sanity will return when Stonewall's malign influence is extirpated from every organisation it has captured.

@Mollyollydolly Nancy is already claiming that they are the best people to help detransitioning people

I think, in time, their name will become a byword for disturbing attempts to ideologically hijack society and reality.

Future generations will wonder just how the hell it all happened, and see this period as peopled by idiots that actually believed people could change sex if they wished it so.

I have to say: the whole thing has taught me a lot about mass hysteria and how dangerous and ideologies take root in societies. What concerns me, though, is how fragile our institutions are to irrational ideologies. In other eras, you needed zealots with guns to enforce the craziness.

Oh no how cynical of them. I think they edit their website every time they get rumbled about something.
I truly hope they're on their way out, but my organisation has just joined them!

I thought universities had already started turning their backs on Stonewall? www.theguardian.com/education/2021/dec/21/ucl-becomes-first-university-to-formally-cut-ties-with-stonewall

I also think they will probably see detransitioners as the next cash cow. I really do hope someone with a shred of integrity dissuades them from this course of action, they have already done so much damage to, what should have been, a remarkable legacy.

By next tax return day. What’s that, 31st Jan?