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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The "Stonewall position" justified using facts, logic, reason and compassion

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GCRich · 26/05/2022 13:38

This is a serious question. I would love someone to show me a few of the best essays or articles which use facts, logic, reason and compassion to try to justify some or all Stonewall-approved "trans rights" positions.

My GC beliefs come in part from my complete failure to find anything at all convincing to back up Stonewall's position. But, by definition, there must be articles or essays which summarise the key arguments in a way that makes them amongst the best justifications of Stonewall's position. What and where are these articles?

To be clear - I am 99.999% that there is nothing that could make me depart from my GC beliefs, but I am curious to know if there is anything out there which could be seen as somewhat convincing. There must be something out there that is more convincing than #TWAW #bekind? Mustn't there?

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RoseLunarPink · 27/05/2022 17:37

VaginaRegina thanks so much for posting that. Well done to the Quakers for not backing down and insisting that everyone being heard is the most sensible and fair way forward, and for openly acknowledging all those views.

CrossPurposes · 27/05/2022 17:50

VaginaRegina · 27/05/2022 17:21

OP, this doesn't answer everything you ask, but it is a much more level-headed and even-handed approach than I have seen anywhere else.

www.norwichquakers.org.uk/post/norwich-meeting-s-experience-of-conflict-around-transgender-issues-january-2019-january-2020

It's quite long but, IMO, worth it: it's an account of Norwich Quakers agreeing to host a Woman's Place meeting, the issues that arose from that, and their subsequent setting up of two "listening meetings" at which each side could set out their beliefs. I think it's the most genuinely unbiased account I've found of trying to understand both sides of the argument.

I'm not a believer but if I was I think I'd be a Quaker. They are so fair and open minded. Thank you for posting this.

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